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14:27 Aug 19, 2010
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Italian to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Cosmetics, Beauty
Italian term or phrase: asportabilità
Regarding a moisturizing cleanser, the producer writes: "[Il detergente] ha un basso profilo di asportabilità con una minor rimozione dal sito di applicazione e possibilità di prolungare l’attività locale di protezione."

I understand what it means, but can't find the proper term in English.

Please: do not suggest "removability." I'm looking for *alternatives* inasmuch as I've already done the research to demonstrate to my satisfaction that "removability" seems rarely to be used in native-English materials regarding surfactants/cleansers. Likewise, please don't offer websites that are translated from English or written in ESL.

I'm hoping to find the equivalent concept in native English materials. Many thanks for your help.
WendellR
Local time: 11:26
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3long-lasting moisturing effect
Sarah Jane Webb
3(high) penetrating power
texjax DDS PhD
3long-lasting / long-lasting actionliz askew
3moisture locking
Chiara D'Andrea
2 +1smudgingxxxMr Murray
3cannot be easily removed
cynthiatesser
2removal ratedandamesh


  

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cannot be easily removed


Explanation:
make it should be explained...

cynthiatesser
Italy
Local time: 11:26
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Native speaker of: Italian
PRO pts in category: 4
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smudging


Explanation:
'is not easily smudged'

I find it difficult to find an appropriate synonym for 'removability' - and personally would be tempted to use some antonym of it in reverse - such as - 'it has a high staying/holding/etc. characteristic'

Barring the use of an antonym, anti- or low- smudging 'profile' comes to mind.

xxxMr Murray
Italy
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Colin Ryan: Non-smudging?
3 days23 hrs
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moisture locking


Explanation:
Not sure if you could adapt it, but this is what one of the leading brands of moisturising products says about their intensive range. They also talk of it "forming a protective barrier", which is what your product seems to do. Hope it is of some help...

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-08-19 16:06:31 GMT)
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Understood, I thought of "shielding properties" too...I found the following sentence on a site for "Gloves in a Bottle": ""Shielding lotions don't wash or rub off," agrees Dr. Zogg. "Because a shielding lotion stays on and protects the skin it’s a very effective treatment for the dry skin conditions we see here in the winter months."
Shielding properties could encompass the other ones you mentioned, aside from moisturising. :-)

Chiara D'Andrea
Local time: 10:26
Native speaker of: Italian
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Chiara. I think we're on the right track, but moisture-locking doesn't work for all the other properties of which the product boasts (antioxidant, antibacterial, etc.) For the moment I'm thinking "removal resistance," which means reversing the concept. A product with "bassa" asportabilita' has "alta" removal-resistance.

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removal rate


Explanation:
Sounds a bit like polluting... but this is the meaning (?)

dandamesh
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long-lasting / long-lasting action


Explanation:
turn it round to make it sound positive

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Hydromanil is used in our anti-aging skin care cream and products.
It is a regulatory action of the cutaneous desquamative process that eliminates ... In order to assess the long lasting moisturizing effects, the study was extended to 21 days. .... Problem Skin Enzyme Cleanse · Problem Skin Face Mask ...
www.dermaxime.com/hydromanil-clinical.htm - United States - Cached
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Gel moisturizing cleanser - Shop UK sales & prices at TheFind UK
Gel moisturizing cleanser - 626 results from 194 UK stores, including Garnier ... coloring free gel Instantly removes impurities & dead cells Provides long lasting ... Primrose extract is noted for its anti-shine, cleansing action while ...
www.thefind.co.uk/beauty/info-gel-moisturizing-cleanser - Cached
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Gourmet Beauty: Long-lasting Tinted Moisturizer for Acne-prone and ...
26 May 2009 ... For acne, I used Clean & Clear Dual Action Moisturizer with Salicylic Acid. ... A long lasting foundation! Preferably one you have tested and know that it truly is ... Wash your face extremely well with a deep cleanser. ...
gourmetbeauty.blogspot.com/.../long-lasting-tinted-moisturizer-for.html - Cached - Similar
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sensitive cleansing bar - suki inc.
moisturizer. • facial lift ultimate firming cream ... what a super gentle, moisturizing, french milled, long-lasting face / body cleanser ... action. softening. sodium palmate from organic palm oil, sodium cocoate/sodium ... We have both waited so long for this bar cleanser. it doesn't disappoint...the scent is ...
https://www.sukiskincare.com/v2/.../sensitive-cleansing-bar.... - Cached

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:26
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Nope, it's not quite long-lasting. If anything, it would be "lastingness." A product can have either high asportabilità (i.e., is short-lasting) or low asportabilità (i.e., is long-lasting), but in any case the issue isn't durability over time but resistance to being washed/worn away/removed.

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(high) penetrating power


Explanation:
The products has a high penetrating power, that's why it has a "basso profilo di asportabilita'", which is just a fancy way to express a very simple concept

Cosmedix Purity Clean
The refreshing cleanser penetrates deeply to eliminate cellular debris, decongest pores and hydrate. In addition, Cosmedix uses a …
loryjozob.homeip.net/cosmedix-p... - Options


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Note added at 11 hrs (2010-08-20 01:51:21 GMT)
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Typo: the product

texjax DDS PhD
Local time: 05:26
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 44
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long-lasting moisturing effect


Explanation:
Hi Wendell,

I don't find the source text particularly clear; it seems to imply that the cleanser is not easily removed, which sounds rather unappealing.


I wouldn't bet my bottom euro on it, but I think what they mean is that the product has a long-lasting moisturising and protective effect, which doesn't wash away with the make-up and dirt once the cleanser is removed. It might help if you tell us in what manner the cleanser is removed (washed away with water, removed with cotton pads and toner, whatever).

hth




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I think the only way you can get round this is to somehow separate the two functions, so that it's clear that what stays is the benefit, i.e. the moisturising/emollient ingredients, and not the actual cleanser, which is supposed to - ehm - cleanse. Can't see how it can do that unless you can remove the dirt... Presumably the beneficial ingredients are formulated in such a way as to penetrate in-depth, while an easy-to-remove component gets rid of superficial impurities (?).

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Note added at 4 hrs (2010-08-19 19:05:04 GMT)
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How about "staying power"? Found a few ghits:

Some ingredients that work as evaporation blockers do double duty as emollients which keep the skin smooth. But evaporation blockers are often greasy. There are less greasy variants but they usually have less **staying power** than their greasy counterparts.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:29E03Kz...

Oil has a bit more staying power than the average moisturizer does, and it will prevent moisture from evaporating off of your skin [source: Mayo Clinic].
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:KedtNg6...

...Mascara and lipstick come right off and leaves my skin feeling soft and moisturized. It's main ingredient is mineral oil rather than petroleum jelly, therefore, it liquefies quickly and turns into an almost baby oil-like consistency.

... Because of its petroleum base, it has wonderful **staying power** and is so silky to the touch. ...
+moisturizing+cleanser+staying+power&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=it&client=firefox-a



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Pangea beauty facial cleanser is for all types of skin ... It features deep-moisturizing organic oils that offer tremendous staying power ...
www.beautorium.com/manufacturers/pangea-organics-12

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Note added at 1 day5 hrs (2010-08-20 19:30:29 GMT)
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Ooops, ... typo:
as Potra rightly pointed out, that should be "long lasting **moisturising** effect" of course

sorry

Sarah Jane Webb
Local time: 11:26
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi, Sarah. This concept of asportabilità comes up several times in the text. Basically, they seem to be saying that it's a *good* thing if the moisturing/emollient ingredients in the product don't "asportare" because then they stay in place longer to continue providing their benefits. I thought of something like "resists easy removal," but then it begins to sound like a negative characteristic -- once you get this stuff on you, it'll never come off!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  liz askew: sorry, I did not see this until I had posted my answer!! :)
2 hrs
  -> no prob, cheers Liz :-)

agree  Ivana UK: sounds right!
18 hrs
  -> thanks Ivana, though Wendell is apparently looking for something different. Perhaps "staying power" might work.

agree  potra: Yes, but moisturizing effect
22 hrs
  -> of course, thanks for noticing! And thanks for the agree :-)
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