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Italian term or phrase:dedotto o deducibile
English translation:which arise or may arise from
Entered by: John Mifsud
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21:52 Nov 13, 2008
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Italian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
Italian term or phrase: dedotto o deducibile
This term already exists in the Kudoz glossary but I didn't really feel the translation given ("inferred or inferrable") was very convincing in English

Here is the contract clause it comes from

le parti dichiarano irrevocabilmente di non avere più nulla a pretendere l'una dall'altra in relazione al Contratto e rinunciano reciprocamente a qualsiasi pretesa e/o diritto, dedotto o deducibile, comunque connesso a quanto precede

I was thinking it might effectively mean "directly or indirectly arising from"

Would appreciate all suggestions on this one!
John Mifsud
Malta
Local time: 03:32
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1deducted or deductable
unaldi
3 +1waiver of any arguable rights
Sylvia Gilbertson
4deduced or deductible
katia mazzau
3(claim and/or right) derived or derivativexxxAdrian MM.


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deducted or deductable


Explanation:
dedurre is deduct, as you said 'arise from' or result

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Note added at 7 mins (2008-11-13 22:00:40 GMT)
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deductible as well.. both spellings are correct

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Note added at 11 mins (2008-11-13 22:04:38 GMT)
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oops, sorry about my note on spelling.. I am not the one to teach you that :) Sincere apologies...


    Reference: http://www.wordreference.com/iten/dedurre
unaldi
Local time: 04:32
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish

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agree  Valeria Lattanzi
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deduced or deductible


Explanation:
In Italian 'dedurre' means both 'infer' and 'subtract but I think 'deduced'=dedotto is better than 'deducted'=sottratto in this case.


    Reference: http://www.wordreference.com/iten/dedurre
katia mazzau
Italy
Local time: 03:32
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian

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neutral  xxxAdrian MM.: deduced or deducible - deductible means subtractable.
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waiver of any arguable rights


Explanation:
In a lot of legal briefs, the term "dedurre" is used when attorneys are presenting arguments to the court, and I often translate it as "argue." I think if you just used "arguable" here - or maybe tweaked it with the synonym you prefer - you would cover all the meanings of "dedotto o deducibile." I personally wouldn't use any form of "deduce" in this context.

Sylvia Gilbertson
United States
Local time: 20:32
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PRO pts in category: 63

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agree  Marie-Hélène Hayles: it certainly sounds more like English than translationese.
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2 days2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(claim and/or right) derived or derivative


Explanation:
Deductible is not the same as deducible.

Claims, remedies and right are likelier to be derived and derivative.



Example sentence(s):
  • Does the licensor get a percentage of the income, if any, derived from the derivative use of the work? If so, for how long do these rights go on? ...

    Reference: http://www.ivanhoffman.com/derivative.html
xxxAdrian MM.
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