尊卑族

18:18 Jul 27, 2007
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Japanese to English translations [PRO]
Law (general)
Japanese term or phrase: 尊卑族
I suppose this term is only used in legal contexts to refer to elderly relatives. Does it mean parents and grandparents? Or is the range of relatives wider or narrower? (It is people for whom employees can take leave for the funeral.)
Thank you for any help.
Mari Hodges
Local time: 20:01


Summary of answers provided
4ascendant and descendant relatives
Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)
4ascendant and decendant
cinefil
3 +1immediate family*
KathyT


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immediate family*


Explanation:
Hi Mari,

I don't know of any way to express this succinctly in English based on Mika-san's explanations above. A brief check on the Internet seems to indicate that 尊卑族 does not include spouses or siblings (I could be wrong....)
So one suggestion would be to put "Immediate family" followed by an explanation in brackets to specify the actual family members this is supposed to encompass. Eg.
"immediate family (where this refers to the employee's parents, grandparents, children and/or grandchildren)", or
"immediate family (where this refers to the 2 younger and/or older generations of the employee's direct family members)".

If space is an issue, though, this may be problematic...
Even in English, definitions of "immediate family" vary greatly (see below), so I think it would be prudent to add an explanation regardless.

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Definitions of immediate family on the Web:

* As defined in the NASD Rules Of Fair Practice, an immediate family member includes parents, brothers, sisters, children, father-in-law, mother-in-law, sister-in-law, brother-in-law, and any other relatives who are financially supported. The Rules of Fair Practice use this definition when dealing with practices such as freeriding and withholding. ...
www.firstrepublicbrokerage.com/republic/invest_glosry_IIm.h...

* T he son, daughter, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, father, mother, grandchild, grandparent, adopted son, adopted daughter, step son, step daughter, or person to whom the affected licensee stands in loco parentis.
www.ontarioracingcommission.com/resources_glossary.aspx

* The spouse, minor children, or blood relatives who reside in the immediate household of a certifying agent or an employee, inspector, contractor, or other personnel of the certifying agent. ...
edis.ifas.ufl.edu/HS209

* The term "Immediate Family" is defined as parents, step-parents, siblings, spouse, children, step-children, foster children, in-laws, sibling in-laws, grandparents, great grandparents, step-great grandparents, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, nieces, and nephews.
www.wwcta.org/ins7-def.htm


    Reference: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Aimmediate+family&ie=...
KathyT
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ascendant and decendant


Explanation:
属 が正しい漢字です。
直系尊属 [ちょっけいそんぞく]: lineal ascendant
直系卑属 [ちょっけいひぞく]: lineal descendant
http://ours.be/d/db/edict2654.php

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Note added at 18 hrs (2007-07-28 12:34:27 GMT)
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sorry:decendant→descendant

ひ‐ぞく【卑属】
〔法〕親等上、子と同列以下にある血族。すなわち子・孫・甥・姪など。直系卑属・傍系卑属に分ける。*尊属。
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cinefil
Japan
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ascendant and descendant relatives


Explanation:
family member (spouse, or direct ascendant or descendant: parent, child, grandparent,. or grandchild) of such a senior officer;. • has not received, and is not a direct family member (spouse, or direct ascendant or ...
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We acknowledge that the concept of a family is very wide and depends crucially on the context in which the word is used. Ascendant or descendant relatives, uncles, aunts and cousins are always likely to be regarded as members of the ...


Example sentence(s):
  • of management (manual labor undertaken by family members) directly. influenced the patriarchal structure which had, up to that point, supported ..... "lineal ascendant" (sonzoku), "lineal descendant" (hizoku) etc. is indicative ...
  • We acknowledge that the concept of a family is very wide and depends crucially on the context in which the word is used. Ascendant or descendant relatives, uncles, aunts and cousins are always likely to be regarded as members of the ...

    Reference: http://www.mechel.com/media/for_investors/corp_management/Ch...
    Reference: http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1746-1049...
Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)
Thailand
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