Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Latin term or phrase:
Et tu Brute
English translation:
You too, Brutus, my son
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Egmont
Apr 22, 2002 07:38
22 yrs ago
Latin term
Te Rata Boldy
Et tu brute
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Just straight forward.
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| 4 +6 | You too, Brutus, my son |
Francesco D'Alessandro
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| 5 +1 | You too, Brutus |
John Kinory (X)
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| 5 | And you, Brutus?! ------- And you, Brutus ... |
John Kinory (X)
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| 4 | Even you, Brutus |
Chris Rowson (X)
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You too, Brutus, my son
Et tu, Brute, fili mi
was the phrase pronounced by Julius Caesar when he was stabbed to death by a group of libertarian conspirators, one of which was his own adoptive son Brutus
was the phrase pronounced by Julius Caesar when he was stabbed to death by a group of libertarian conspirators, one of which was his own adoptive son Brutus
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You too, Brutus
The phrase as given does not contain any reference to sons.
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Pierre POUSSIN
: Exactly! Traduttore, tradittore!
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Antoinette Verburg
: exactly
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Francesco D'Alessandro
: then you should translate: you too, o brute (no capitalization - Longman definition: nonhuman animal...). Traditore with one "t"
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Nonsense. We are in the business of translation, not of transliteration. We are supposed to use our brains to render a phrase into an idiomatic one in the target language.
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Even you, Brutus
Caesar was surprised that his (former) friend and collaborator Brutus was participating in his murder, and the Latin "et" expresses more of this than the simple English "and".
Surprise and disappointment.
Surprise and disappointment.
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And you, Brutus?! ------- And you, Brutus ...
And you, Brutus?!
Or:
And you, Brutus ...
This, in fact, is the literal translation. Having thought about it (helped by the comment from Chris), I agree that it is more than just a statement: it's an expression of surprise and disappointment (by Caesar, who was shattered to discover that Brutus too, his friend, turned on him and stabbed him along with the other conspirators).
And why should the simple English above, with the help of question mark + exclamation mark (or an ellipsis, my second suggestion), express exactly that?
Or:
And you, Brutus ...
This, in fact, is the literal translation. Having thought about it (helped by the comment from Chris), I agree that it is more than just a statement: it's an expression of surprise and disappointment (by Caesar, who was shattered to discover that Brutus too, his friend, turned on him and stabbed him along with the other conspirators).
And why should the simple English above, with the help of question mark + exclamation mark (or an ellipsis, my second suggestion), express exactly that?
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