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Q -- no relationship with al Qaeda, no relationship with Zarqawi.
MR. SNOW: That's right, no operational relationship, as far as we can tell. But they were there. And Zarqawi was committing acts of terror while he was in Baghdad, but we don't -- look, if we *had the goods*, we'd share them, but we don't *have the goods* to demonstrate.
There are two types of serial killer interview. One, where you *have the goods on* them and it’s going to take you a long time to get into the fact that they’re going to confess to you and the other where you don’t *have the goods on* them.