que tem a idade e a referência da cultura europeia

English translation: that harks back to the very beginnings of European culture

14:39 Oct 9, 2013
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting / sculpture / public art
Portuguese term or phrase: que tem a idade e a referência da cultura europeia
This is in a description of a large outdoor sculpture, an arch. I think I understand the concept, that the architectural/sculptural tradition is both as old as European culture, and that this is its reference. But I'm having trouble turning this into a structure that works in English, can anyone help?

De facto, este arco que (sculptor's name) trouxe para o parque de (name of sculpture park) constitui-se para quem chega como um sinal exemplar de uma tradição arquitectónica e escultórica que tem a idade e a referência da cultura europeia, como sinal de civilização e de memória portanto [...]
Lucy Phillips
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:46
English translation:that harks back to the very beginnings of European culture
Explanation:
OR:

that stretches back to the earliest stratum of European culture
that stretches back in an unbroken line to the very birth of European culture

Or one of the many permutations of such language.

This seems to be the idea.

Boa sorte.

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@Lucy:

I think that the original reflects two important ideas: 1.) that the sculpture in question reflects a long tradition; 2.) that said sculpture somehow evokes the earliest elements of that tradition (which, in reference to sculpture would likely mean the earliest Greek sculptures).

I therefore think that the last option I've offered above represents a highly idiomatic rendering of the author's intention.

Another possibility:
that stands as the latest iteration of a millennial tradition

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-10-09 16:10:00 GMT)
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OR:

that holds a secure place within an age-old European tradition
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Robert Forstag
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that harks back to the very beginnings of European culture


Explanation:
OR:

that stretches back to the earliest stratum of European culture
that stretches back in an unbroken line to the very birth of European culture

Or one of the many permutations of such language.

This seems to be the idea.

Boa sorte.

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Note added at 23 mins (2013-10-09 15:02:49 GMT)
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@Lucy:

I think that the original reflects two important ideas: 1.) that the sculpture in question reflects a long tradition; 2.) that said sculpture somehow evokes the earliest elements of that tradition (which, in reference to sculpture would likely mean the earliest Greek sculptures).

I therefore think that the last option I've offered above represents a highly idiomatic rendering of the author's intention.

Another possibility:
that stands as the latest iteration of a millennial tradition

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-10-09 16:10:00 GMT)
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OR:

that holds a secure place within an age-old European tradition

Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 09:46
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Asker: yes, I'm trying to strike a balance between coherence in English and respecting the strong voice of the author of this text. Do you think "that stretches back through European culture" does the idea justice? I'm worried about missing a nuance!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  MonicaVFreit (X): I agree with the original sentence - ... that harks.... "that stretches back through European culture" would mean it is that old, it's been there as long as that culture.
1 hr
  -> Obrigado, Monica.

agree  Maria Carvalho: agree,maybe also something like "that reflects and reinforces all of the european cultural background"…
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