Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Portuguese term or phrase:
pessoa de bem
English translation:
upstanding person or citizen
Added to glossary by
Michael Powers (PhD)
Oct 19, 2007 23:09
17 yrs ago
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Portuguese term
United States
US Court Cert. 1980 Ph.D. 1981
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
pessoa de bem
Portuguese to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
Brasil
... também sabe informar que o JOSÉ tem interesse em manter o pai trabalhando no Brasil e ligado a uma pessoa de bem, motivo pelo qual acreditou no negócio que o declarante já tinha, incentivndo seu pai a firmar a sociedade.
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
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1 hr
Elizabeth Lyons
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Scientist / Linguist
Native in: English (Variants: UK, US) 
Works in: French to English, Italian to English, Portuguese to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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16
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upstanding person or citizen
Or an "upright person" or "upright citizen", is somewhat idiomatic here in the US.
Note from asker:
| Elizabeth, I took a look at your website and was very impressed with your thoroughness and preparation. I feel you are a person we should all try to emulate. Congratulations for being a true professional and coming as close as you can to perfecting the art of translation. - Mike :) |
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Donna Sandin
: I would agree, but I have always wondered about this phrase, whether "prosperous" or "well to do person" might be meant here
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Donna, thank you - that is an interesting point but I wouldn't think that nuance is implied here. More about character.
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Lumen (X)
: Donna, *prosperous* would probably be right if the sentence mentioned *pessoas de bens*. As it is, in the singular, there is no question that this is the correct answer.
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Lumen, I see what you are saying, like "persons of means". I didn't get "prosperous" and I agree there should be no religious overtones at all here. Thank you!
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Cecilia Welsh
: ...person in good standing in his community
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Thank you, LadyofArcadia, I think that is the meaning, exactly.
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Vania de Souza
: I agree with Lady of Arcadia. I Brazil, a "pessoa de bem" is well considered, goes by the rules, is ethical and generally good.
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Thanks, Vania - that is a helpful definition, too.
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veratek
: upstanding or in good standing as Lady said
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vera-tech, thank you for the confirmation.
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Cristina Santos
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Thank you Cristina : )
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Gisele Goldstein
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Thank you Gisele : )
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Paula Vaz-Carreiro
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Thank you Paula : )
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you, Ralph, Elizabeth, Sue, Marlene, Elvira and everyone else who made comments and the contributed answers. I appreciate your valuable input. - Mike :)"
26 mins
righteous person
É como entendo. É mais do que ser apenas uma "law abiding person", é comportar-se éticamente, independentemente de qualquer religião ou legislação. Veja estes exemplos:
BibleGateway.com: Search for a Bible passage in over 35 languages ...
26 The LORD said, "If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake." ...
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=18
[DOC] Commandments and RighteousnessFile Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
We can commit ourselves to the project of turning ourselves into righteous people, forgetting that true righteousness is simply doing what is right. ...
www.bu.edu/chapel/services/sermons/documents/100205Commandm...
BibleGateway.com: Search for a Bible passage in over 35 languages ...
26 The LORD said, "If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake." ...
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=18
[DOC] Commandments and RighteousnessFile Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
We can commit ourselves to the project of turning ourselves into righteous people, forgetting that true righteousness is simply doing what is right. ...
www.bu.edu/chapel/services/sermons/documents/100205Commandm...
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Lumen (X)
: Righteous doesn't quite fit here. It has religious overtones which are not present in *pessoa de bem*.
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Words are perceived differently from different people, sometimes. I don't see religion, but ethics/morality.
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Beta Cummins
: agree with rhandler. See definition on my note to asker.
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Thank you, Beta! The Encarta definitions fit perfectly.
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veratek
: same as Lumen - both references posted are religious btw
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No, the references are not religious, but moral, used as religious texts.
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Person of means
A thought, Michael, someone who is well-off, has money and maybe is upstanding as well!
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Marlene Curtis
United States
United States
Native in Portuguese
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English
Specializes in field
United States
Marlene Curtis
Native in: Portuguese , English
Works in: English to Portuguese, Portuguese to English
Related KudoZ points
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536
honest person/a person of high standing
My suggestion.
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12 hrs
Discussion
1. strictly observant of morality: always behaving according to a religious or moral code
2. justifiable: considered to be correct or justifiable
3. responding to injustice: arising from the perception of great injustice/wrong doing