situação

English translation: incumbent

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Portuguese term or phrase:situação
English translation:incumbent
Entered by: CarolynB

12:21 Jul 12, 2004
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Philosophy / cultural studies, postmodernism
Portuguese term or phrase: situação
Ao longo da última campanha presidencial, as oscilações entre, de um lado, a tentativa de construção de um discurso mais pragmático, apolíneo ou dramático e, de outro, um maior investimento em elementos e retóricas dionisíacas ou trágicas, ficaram bastante evidentes. De um modo geral, o tom mais apolíneo ficou por conta da **situação**, enquanto aquele mais dionisíaco ficou por conta da oposição. O que se viu foi o contraponto entre um discurso mais técnico, pragmático, menos apaixonado, de parte da **situação**, e um discurso mais inflamado, de maior apelo emocional, de caráter mais ideológico, de parte da oposição (em especial, de Lula e do PT).

In context, this use of 'situação' seems to be referring to the incumbent party or government - is this correct?
Lucy Phillips
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:11
incumbent / as-is side
Explanation:
2 options
Selected response from:

CarolynB
Grading comment
Thanks, Carolyn. I think I will stick with 'incumbent party'.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +2political establishment or current political regime OR those in power
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
4 +2incumbent / as-is side
CarolynB
4 +2status quo
Michael Powers (PhD)
5the ruling party
judith ryan


Discussion entries: 4





  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
situação
incumbent / as-is side


Explanation:
2 options

CarolynB
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks, Carolyn. I think I will stick with 'incumbent party'.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sormane Gomes
1 hr

agree  Ana Rita Santiago: That's what the original means by 'situação'. I'd use incumbent party.
7 hrs
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
situação
status quo


Explanation:
The idea is right, but I believe this is how we would express it.

Mike :)

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Note added at 1 hr 27 mins (2004-07-12 13:49:23 GMT)
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Definition of \"status quo\"



Status quo
For the perennial British rock band, see Status Quo (band)

Status quo is a Latin term meaning the present current, existing state of affairs. \"Maintaining the Status quo\" usually connotes that the speaker is claiming to \"keep things the way they presently are\".

Politicains sometimes refer to a \"Status quo\". Sometimes there is a policy of deliberate ambiguity, referring to the status quo rather than formalizing the status. An example of political ambiguity is the political status of Taiwan. Clark Kerr is said to have said, \"The status quo is the only solution that cannot be vetoed.\" Laurence J. Peter is said to have said, \"Bureaucracy defends the status quo long past the time when the quo has lost its status.\"




Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 12:11
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 7

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Henrique Magalhaes
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Henrique - Mike :)

agree  nothing
1 hr
  -> Thank you, nothing - Mike :)

disagree  Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X): it means those in power..not the status quo...you can be in power and in fact be against the status quo
1 hr
  -> It means keeping the situation as is - and the term "situaçao" is purposefully used also, instead of literally saying "those in power" to euphemistically refer to the same thing, IMHO - Mike :)

agree  Valeria Verona
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Valeria - Mike :)
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
situação
political establishment or current political regime OR those in power


Explanation:
those in situ: situação....in place, ie those in power
versus
the opposition: in oppositu [not sure of ending]
oppono -ponere -posui -positum [to put opposite or before; to pledge against , mortgage for; to set against, oppose, interpose; to allege as an objection; to contrast]. Hence partic. oppositus -a -um, [standing against, opposite].



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Note added at 1 hr 22 mins (2004-07-12 13:44:15 GMT)
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The Latin is SO interesting, isn\'t it??

in situ in oppo-situ........,.

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Note added at 1 hr 29 mins (2004-07-12 13:50:58 GMT)
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If the writer had meant status quo, he/she would have used the word since it exists in Brazilian Portuguese...from Latin. As it wasn\'t used, why change the meaning??

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Note added at 1 hr 52 mins (2004-07-12 14:14:31 GMT)
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If you really want to be elegant, you go go for the LAtin.

Those in situ...and those in oppositu....

:)

Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 7

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Michael Powers (PhD): If the writer had meant "in power", "those in power" or "current political regime", he would have used the phrase in Portuguese since it exists. He didn't;; ergo, ...
10 mins
  -> For academic purposes, situation comes from IN SITU and opposition comes from in oppositu....as I said, not all those in power are for the status quo so i disagree....

agree  Simona de Logu: Totally...much clearer.
1 hr

agree  Eneida Martins
1 hr

agree  reginalobo
4 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
situação
the ruling party


Explanation:
... as opposed to the opposition

judith ryan
Brazil
Local time: 13:11
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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