ao modo de

English translation: in the form of

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Portuguese term or phrase:	ao modo de
English translation:	in the form of
Entered by:	Michael Powers (PhD)

13:37 Jul 28, 2007

Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting

Portuguese term or phrase: ao modo de

Not quite sure what the author means here:

... se a crítica contemporânea ataca a arte de massa e a indústria cultural, exemplos de dependência comercial ao modo de produção capitalista, por outro lado ...

- examples of commercial dependence "in the manner/form of"/"insomuch as" capitalist production??
Doesn't seem to make much sense, can anyone give me an idea? Thanks.

Ben Kohn
United Kingdom

in the form of

Explanation:
Mike :)

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Note added at 7 mins (2007-07-28 13:44:30 GMT)
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Economic Manuscripts: Capital, Vol.3, Chapter 51... of surplus-value is the precondition for the fact that the new creation of means of production takes place in the form of capitalist production; thus, ...
www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch51.htm - 20k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

CommunitarinessWhen labour itself in the form of capitalist production becomes merchandise, the community identifies the measure of its wealth in labour-time. ...
www.augustoponzio.com/communitariness.htm - 68k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

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Note added at 15 mins (2007-07-28 13:52:24 GMT)
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Absolutely, and you are not being stupid. It is smart to second guess yourself - sometimes you come up with somethiing better, and sometimes you reaffirm your first or second answer. The reason I put down examples with "in the form of capitalist production" in the examples I googled was to reinforce your original answer.

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Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 21:18

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It seemed that both answers were possible, but having checked with the author himself he confirmed it should be "in the form of". Thanks for everyone's help.
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4 +4

in the form of

Michael Powers (PhD)

3 +2

to the capitalist mode of production

Fernando Domeniconi

Discussion entries: 1

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4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

in the form of

Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 21:18
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 20

Grading comment

It seemed that both answers were possible, but having checked with the author himself he confirmed it should be "in the form of". Thanks for everyone's help.

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks Mike. This is how I had already translated it, maybe I'm just being stupid but it didn't seem to make much sense and I thought I was missing something.

54 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

to the capitalist mode of production

Explanation:
Ok, maybe it's just me, but I understood it as "commercial dependence" TO THE (ao) capitalist mode of production. So another suggestion...

The capitalist mode of production: A century of decline ...In Roman society production was organised between slaves, who worked, and masters, who made them work. This mode of production allowed the development of ...
en.internationalism.org/wr/282/a_century_of_decline.htm

Marx saw these transitional merchants as 'obstacles to the real capitalist mode of production', and that it was just a matter of time before they ...
www.okusi.net/garydean/works/Origins.html

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Note added at 1 day3 hrs (2007-07-29 16:38:08 GMT)
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Yes, Ben...thanks for catching that: dependence ON. My bad !!! :)

Fernando Domeniconi
United States
Local time: 21:18
Native speaker of:

Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 11

Notes to answerer

Asker: Hi Fernando, thanks for your answer. I think what you mean is "dependence on the capitalist mode of production" ("dependence to" is not a correct contruction in English). I am going to ask the author tomorrow what he actually means because, after reading Vera's explanation, I think both meanings are possible.

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