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E seja como for...

English translation: And, nevertheless/nonetheless/however,

13:33 Jan 17, 2003
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary
Portuguese term or phrase: E seja como for...
"E seja como for, para nos, homens de um século que se reconhece no estilhaçamento de Joyce e Picasso, no absurdo de Kafka, no contrapelo da músical serial, - para nós a sua força não vem desta concepção unitária".

opening quote to academic article - no previous context. Is this quote completely self-contained or does 'e seja como for' refer to something stated previously? grateful for all suggestions for an elegant rendition in English!
Lucy Phillips
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:33
English translation:And, nevertheless/nonetheless/however,
Explanation:
Para mim esse 'seja como for' tem um sentido de 'contudo' ou 'apesar de tudo'
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João Carlos Pijnappel
Local time: 09:33
Grading comment
tough call - all answers very helpful. I think I'm acutally going to go for "And yet...", inspired by João!

thanks everyone
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4In any case,
MJ Barber
5In any case, despite anything else...
BrazBiz
5Be that as it may,
William Stein
4And, nevertheless/nonetheless/however,
João Carlos Pijnappel


  

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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
In any case,


Explanation:
It seems to refer to something stated previously; otherwise it doesn't make sense

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Note added at 2003-01-17 13:45:14 (GMT)
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However; nevertheless, etc.

MJ Barber
Spain
Local time: 14:33
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 125

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ivana de Sousa Santos
5 mins
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agree  Clauwolf
10 mins
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agree  Ana Paula Miraldo
27 mins
agree  Sonia Garrett (X): and anyway,
15 hrs
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
In any case, despite anything else...


Explanation:
I think it should be something to this effect.

Good Luck


BrazBiz
Brazil
Local time: 09:33
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 147
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
And, nevertheless/nonetheless/however,


Explanation:
Para mim esse 'seja como for' tem um sentido de 'contudo' ou 'apesar de tudo'

João Carlos Pijnappel
Local time: 09:33
Native speaker of: Portuguese
PRO pts in pair: 52
Grading comment
tough call - all answers very helpful. I think I'm acutally going to go for "And yet...", inspired by João!

thanks everyone
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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Be that as it may,


Explanation:
This is a common literary expression in English, too.

William Stein
Costa Rica
Local time: 06:33
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 127
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