junta de freguesia

English translation: Parish Council Offices

15:37 Sep 4, 2000
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Portuguese term or phrase: junta de freguesia
it´s correct to say parish house the place (building) were the inhabitants of a town attended to ask questions about the parish.
alice
English translation:Parish Council Offices
Explanation:
Alice, I don't know if your translation is aimed at an American or a British audience. If it's the former, I've nothing to add except to suggest that colleagues who advise "City Hall, Town Hall or County Hall" are maybe missing the point about how small and unimportant the junta da freguesia actually is.
If you're writing for a British audience, there's a problem. The English equivalent of the junta da freguesia is the Parish Council (a local administrative body - the religious equivalent is the Parochial Church Council). However, unlike in Portugal, English Parish Councils do not normally have offices or staff. You could get round it by saying Parish Council Offices, however. Just a suggestion to add to all the others.
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Summary of answers provided
4town council (USA)
Azorean (X)
nasee below please...
Helena El Masri
naParish House
sandra carrazzoni
naCounty Hall ou Town Hall
Márcio Badra
naTown Hall
Steve Smith
natown hall or municipal hall
Lia Fail (X)
naCity council
Élcio Filho
naTown Hall
tjr
naI'm only providing more info for your decision
Alfarroba
naParish Council Offices
lexical


  

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12 mins
see below please...


Explanation:
Parish Council - Junta de Freguesia

the building in itself is the Parish Hall.


Helena El Masri
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Steve Smith

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24 mins
Parish House


Explanation:
Dear Alice,

I have looked the word up in my old an always trusty "Webter´s Encyclopedic Unadbridged Dictionary of the English Language" and in fact the right words are: PARISH HOUSE (place where parishers got together to talk about their matters)

good luck!!!!!!!!!!


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26 mins
County Hall ou Town Hall


Explanation:
Por favor, analise a adequação de County Hall e Town Hall, já que "parish" poderia soar um pouco estranho em algumas regiões dos EUA.

Márcio

Márcio Badra
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43 mins
Town Hall


Explanation:
I strongly second Marcio's suggestion: be very careful with context since in MOST of the United States, "parish" refers to a group of people who attend the same church, not residents of the same town.

Steve Smith
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1 hr
town hall or municipal hall


Explanation:
Parish is associated with religon and religious matters, and depending on the country, were often the basis on which areas were demarcated. But the standard sense is one of the above.

Lia Fail (X)
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1 hr
City council


Explanation:
City council, instead of City hall or Town hall, for example, because I think your context refers to discussion of the problems more than to deliberation; to the legislative and judiciary power more than to the executive. Town hall and City hall is related to the executive power, to the especific functions of the mayor; City council in turn is related to the discussion and deliberative powers of the citizens, the people, to what is called in Brazil "vereadores".
Anyway, I agree with the other answers that state the religious context of the English word "parish".

good luck,
Élcio

Élcio Filho

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12 hrs
Town Hall


Explanation:
Although there are various options, it would be safe to translate this as the Town Hall, as the sentence implies that the meeting was for the whole town to discuss the parish. If the meeting was solely for the parishioners then the translation/location could be the Church Hall.


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15 hrs
I'm only providing more info for your decision


Explanation:
Hi, "Parish" is so connected to religous matters that I think it will be misleading.
Originally, "freguesia" was "fregueses da igreja", in the sense of "population living in the vicinity of a church". In rural areas, which was the common case, churches were quite apart, so these people represented a small land area.
Nowadays, "freguesia" is the smallest administrative division of the public admnistration. You have, from top to bottom: country(Portugal) / distritos / concelhos / freguesias.
"Junta de Freguesia" is the Administrative Body of a freguesia - not connected to religious manners at all. The religious division, at the equivalent level (but with different borders) is "paróquia", and this one, yes, is a parish.
Regarding US administration, I could suggest the following similarities: state=distrito; concelho=county. Freguesia would have to be an administrative division within a county. If you are making a reference to the Portuguese reality, however, I would keep the word "freguesia", with an explanation.

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1 day 21 hrs
Parish Council Offices


Explanation:
Alice, I don't know if your translation is aimed at an American or a British audience. If it's the former, I've nothing to add except to suggest that colleagues who advise "City Hall, Town Hall or County Hall" are maybe missing the point about how small and unimportant the junta da freguesia actually is.
If you're writing for a British audience, there's a problem. The English equivalent of the junta da freguesia is the Parish Council (a local administrative body - the religious equivalent is the Parochial Church Council). However, unlike in Portugal, English Parish Councils do not normally have offices or staff. You could get round it by saying Parish Council Offices, however. Just a suggestion to add to all the others.

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town council (USA)


Explanation:
A Junta de Freguesia is part of the Municipal Government that administrates and oversees the needs of a local village. It is an entity democratically elected by the residents of the village and is composed of a General Assembly and exectutive board.
So, to call it a "Parish Council" is quite inaqurate because a "freguesia" is no longer considered a "parish" but rather a village.

Example sentence(s):
  • Compete à Assembleia de Freguesia eleger os vogais da Junta de Freguesia.
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