селетоидый

English translation: Szeletian (culture)

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Russian term or phrase:селетоидый
English translation:Szeletian (culture)
Entered by: Alan Campbell

09:16 Nov 16, 2006
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Science - Archaeology / Palaeolithic cultures
Russian term or phrase: селетоидый
I've spent about 30 minutes hunting this down and have got nowhere, so I put it to the group and see what you can find.

The full paragraph is as follows:

а – памятники ориньякоидного пути развития; б – памятники перигордоидного пути развития; в – памятники селетоидного пути развития; г – районы одновременного существования ориньякоидных и перигордоидных культур; д – районы одновременного существования ориньякоидных и селетоидных культур.

I've got Aurignacian and Perigordian but can't find this селетоидый one anywhere.

It's a legend for a map showing locations of sites of each culture in Europe and Asia.
Alan Campbell
Local time: 12:17
Szeletian (culture)
Explanation:
Период назван по имени пещеры Селета в Венгрии (Szeleta).

См. такие ссылки:

"В период от 43 до 38 тыс. л. н. индустрии переходного типа и/или начального верхнего палеолита наверняка уже существовали в Северной Африке (атер, даббан), на Ближнем Востоке, в Западной Европе (шательперрон), Центральной Европе (***селет***, богунисьен), на Балканах (бачокирьен), в Южной Сибири (карабомовский пласт), причем нет сомнений, что большинство их формировалось на местной основе. "
http://stratum.ant.md/1_00/articles/vishnatscii1/96stanov.ht...

"В пределах среднеевропейского верхнего палеолита выделяют ***селетскую*** культуру (названа по пещере Селета в Венгрии), для которой также характерно наличие верхнепалеолитических изделий (в частности, весьма совершенных тонких ретушированных с обеих сторон листовидных наконечников) вместе с вещами мустьерского облика"
http://www.archeologia.ru/Library/Book/32033ea9376c/page131

"They also relate the site extensively to the Byzovaya site in the preceding paragraph, noting the archaeology has been classified as "eastern ***Szeletien*** with Aurignacian traits" (66)."
http://www.johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/early_modern/arctic


"The ***Szeletian*** and the Transition from Middle to Upper Palaeolithic in Central Europe (Hardcover)
by Peter Allsworth-Jones "
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Szeletian-Transition-Palaeolithic-Ce...

и пр.

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-11-16 11:02:46 GMT)
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Вот еще ссылка на хороший ресурс, который, может быть, пригодится в дальнейшей работе:

"Szeletian
CATEGORY: culture
DEFINITION: Early Upper Palaeolithic industry of central Europe with bifacial foliated points and sidescrapers, but it has also been applied to the industries with foliated points which mark the transition from the Middle Paleolithic to Upper Paleolithic periods throughout the eastern part of central Europe. It appears to have developed from the Middle Palaeolithic (Micoquian). The type site is Szeleta Cave in the Bükk Mountains in Hungary. The culture seems to date between 45,000-25,000 BC, the middle of the Last glacial. Later assemblages contain endscrapers and retouched blades. "
http://www.reference-wordsmith.com/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi?catego...
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Elena Ivanjushina
Russian Federation
Local time: 15:17
Grading comment
Great answer Alya! Many thanks.
I use the wordsmith reference a lot, but would never have guessed the z in the name.

It comes up later as селетский, which has me wondering what the difference is between that and селетоидый. The same ending is tacked onto some other cultures too - ориньякоидный vs, ориньякский, etc.
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Szeletian (culture)


Explanation:
Период назван по имени пещеры Селета в Венгрии (Szeleta).

См. такие ссылки:

"В период от 43 до 38 тыс. л. н. индустрии переходного типа и/или начального верхнего палеолита наверняка уже существовали в Северной Африке (атер, даббан), на Ближнем Востоке, в Западной Европе (шательперрон), Центральной Европе (***селет***, богунисьен), на Балканах (бачокирьен), в Южной Сибири (карабомовский пласт), причем нет сомнений, что большинство их формировалось на местной основе. "
http://stratum.ant.md/1_00/articles/vishnatscii1/96stanov.ht...

"В пределах среднеевропейского верхнего палеолита выделяют ***селетскую*** культуру (названа по пещере Селета в Венгрии), для которой также характерно наличие верхнепалеолитических изделий (в частности, весьма совершенных тонких ретушированных с обеих сторон листовидных наконечников) вместе с вещами мустьерского облика"
http://www.archeologia.ru/Library/Book/32033ea9376c/page131

"They also relate the site extensively to the Byzovaya site in the preceding paragraph, noting the archaeology has been classified as "eastern ***Szeletien*** with Aurignacian traits" (66)."
http://www.johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/early_modern/arctic


"The ***Szeletian*** and the Transition from Middle to Upper Palaeolithic in Central Europe (Hardcover)
by Peter Allsworth-Jones "
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Szeletian-Transition-Palaeolithic-Ce...

и пр.

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-11-16 11:02:46 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Вот еще ссылка на хороший ресурс, который, может быть, пригодится в дальнейшей работе:

"Szeletian
CATEGORY: culture
DEFINITION: Early Upper Palaeolithic industry of central Europe with bifacial foliated points and sidescrapers, but it has also been applied to the industries with foliated points which mark the transition from the Middle Paleolithic to Upper Paleolithic periods throughout the eastern part of central Europe. It appears to have developed from the Middle Palaeolithic (Micoquian). The type site is Szeleta Cave in the Bükk Mountains in Hungary. The culture seems to date between 45,000-25,000 BC, the middle of the Last glacial. Later assemblages contain endscrapers and retouched blades. "
http://www.reference-wordsmith.com/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi?catego...

Elena Ivanjushina
Russian Federation
Local time: 15:17
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Great answer Alya! Many thanks.
I use the wordsmith reference a lot, but would never have guessed the z in the name.

It comes up later as селетский, which has me wondering what the difference is between that and селетоидый. The same ending is tacked onto some other cultures too - ориньякоидный vs, ориньякский, etc.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alexander Demyanov: Definitely
3 hrs
  -> спасибо :)

agree  Jack slep: Also definitely
5 hrs
  -> спасибо :)
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