отчислен с 4-го курса по собственному желанию...

English translation: DROPPED from 4th year enrollment at his own request

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Russian term or phrase:отчислен с 4-го курса по собственному желанию...
English translation:DROPPED from 4th year enrollment at his own request
Entered by: Dorene Cornwell

03:29 Dec 10, 2003
Russian to English translations [Non-PRO]
Russian term or phrase: отчислен с 4-го курса по собственному желанию...
Акадмеческая справка
Mark Vaintroub
Canada
Local time: 20:06
DROPPED from 4th year enrollment at his own request
Explanation:
DROPPED from 4th year enrollment at his own request

Nice and bureaucratic
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Dorene Cornwell
Local time: 17:06
Grading comment
Thanx for this variant, which was also confirmed by a very trustworthy (for me) source!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2dismissed from the 4th year of study at his own request
kire (X)
5was voluntarily excluded on the 4th year…
ganaa444
4 +1DROPPED from 4th year enrollment at his own request
Dorene Cornwell
5was voluntarily excluded from the 4th grade…
ganaa444
4 +11.Dropped out of 4th year of college/university; 2. Quit 4th year of college/university
Oleg Pashuk (X)
5sent down from fourth year of his own free will
AYP
4discharged from the 4th year of study at one's own request
Сергей Лузан
3sent down from his 4th year (at the University?) on his own accord
Vladimir Lioukaikine (X)
2sent down from the 4th year on his own initiative
Girene


  

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29 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
отчислен с 4-го курса по собственному желанию...
sent down from his 4th year (at the University?) on his own accord


Explanation:
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Vladimir Lioukaikine (X)
Local time: 05:06
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in pair: 281
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55 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
1.Dropped out of 4th year of college/university; 2. Quit 4th year of college/university


Explanation:
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Note added at 2003-12-11 22:04:14 (GMT)
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Or simply:
Left college/university after three years of study



Oleg Pashuk (X)
PRO pts in pair: 619

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andrey Belousov (X): Precisely!The definite article or even better "his" is required before "4th year".
44 mins
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
sent down from fourth year of his own free will


Explanation:
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AYP
Local time: 03:06
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in pair: 90
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
DROPPED from 4th year enrollment at his own request


Explanation:
DROPPED from 4th year enrollment at his own request

Nice and bureaucratic

Dorene Cornwell
Local time: 17:06
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 830
Grading comment
Thanx for this variant, which was also confirmed by a very trustworthy (for me) source!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jack Doughty
4 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
was voluntarily excluded from the 4th grade…


Explanation:
was voluntarily excluded from the 4th grade…

ganaa444
Mongolia
Local time: 09:06
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Oleg Pashuk (X): 4th grade? This is about college, not elementary school:-)
6 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
sent down from the 4th year on his own initiative


Explanation:
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Girene
Kazakhstan
Local time: 07:06
Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in pair: 51
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
discharged from the 4th year of study at one's own request


Explanation:
Re.: Russian-English Dictionary, 34 000 words approx., Arakin, Soviet Encyclopedia Publ. House, Moscow, 1970
(отчислен - это всё-таки "исключён"), хотя Russian-English Dictionary over 160 000 words & expressions, 1997, ISBN 5-200-02419 даёт о студентах
'sent down'.
Удачи, Mark Vaintroub!

Сергей Лузан
Russian Federation
Local time: 04:06
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in pair: 1276
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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
dismissed from the 4th year of study at his own request


Explanation:
попадалась такая формулировка

хотя натуральнее звучит quit или withdrawn, однако в бюрократическо-канцелярском оригинале (вдумайтесь: отчислен по собственному желанию!) есть что-то ненатуральное.

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Note added at 11 hrs 43 mins (2003-12-10 15:12:50 GMT)
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I\'ve just checked the KUDOZ glossary. Go figure! Dismissed it is :)

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/158863

kire (X)
PRO pts in pair: 71

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andrey Belousov (X): To be dismissed one has to have smb's permission , which is obviously not the case
1 hr
  -> it is exactly the case

agree  David Wallace: I would say "withdrawn", but the point is that "otchislen" is a past participle: some registrar is the agent of action, not the student, although it was at his request
1 hr
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agree  Yelena.
9 hrs
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1 day 22 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
was voluntarily excluded on the 4th year…


Explanation:
In English, it is not too usual to use the “course” for the Russian concept of “курс”.
More naturally they would use the word “year” in a college/university context.
Thus the translation would be:

was voluntarily excluded on the 4th year…

A dictionary says:

курс 1. в разн. знач. course; перен. тж. policy 2. (год обучения) year; он на третьем ~е he is in his third year 3. …


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Note added at 2003-12-12 02:13:37 (GMT)
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Sorry for the fonts, now I changed the fonts:

In English, it is not too usual to use the “course” for the Russian concept of “кyрс”.
More naturally they would use the word “year” in a college/university context.
Thus the translation would be:

was voluntarily excluded on the 4th year…

A dictionary says:

кyрс 1. в разн. знач. course; перен. тж. policy 2. (гoд oбyчения) year; oн на третьем ~е he is in his third year 3. …


ganaa444
Mongolia
Local time: 09:06
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
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