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"tsel opravdyvayet sredstva"

English translation: the end justifies the means

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Russian term or phrase:tsel opravdyvayet sredstva
English translation:the end justifies the means
Entered by: Alexander Kudriavtsev
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20:23 Aug 8, 2001
Russian to English translations [Non-PRO]
Art/Literary
Russian term or phrase: "tsel opravdyvayet sredstva"
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the end justifies the means
Explanation:
The famous slogan attributed to Jesuits who used Latin and thus the original sounds like "finis est licitus, etiam media sunt licita".
There is also one other English version of this famous phrase closer to the Latin original - "he who wills the end wills the means"
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Alexander Kudriavtsev
Local time: 19:47
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Summary of answers provided
na +6the end justifies the meansMarcus Malabad
na +5the end justifies the meansAlexander Kudriavtsev
na +1goals justify meansOlgaB
nathe aim is worth of means
Anzhelika Dregval
naThe purpose justifies means
Rostov
nathe end sanctifies the means
Alexander Alexandrov


  

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42 mins peer agreement (net): +6
the end justifies the means


Explanation:
10,200 google results by the way...

tsel - goal, objective
opravdivat/opravdat - to justify
sredsvta - means, resources


    Reference: http://www.usfca.edu/pj/rules-silliman.htm
    Reference: http://www.sciencenet.org.uk/database/Biology/Animals/b00287...
Marcus Malabad
Canada
Local time: 17:47
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in TagalogTagalog
PRO pts in pair: 399

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Johanna Timm, PhD: exactly. trotskij.
44 mins
  -> hmmm, I guess giving a correct answer first doesn't count much these days, right?

agree  DR. RICHARD BAVRY
2 hrs
  -> hmmm, I guess giving a correct answer first doesn't count much these days, right?

agree  Michael Estes: Or even plural: "The ends justify the means"
6 hrs

agree  xxxNermina
9 hrs

agree  DrSantos: We all agree like a happy family
13 hrs

agree  Christopher Gierig: common English phrase
19 hrs
  -> hmmm, I guess giving a correct answer first doesn't count much these days, right?
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2 hrs peer agreement (net): +5
the end justifies the means


Explanation:
The famous slogan attributed to Jesuits who used Latin and thus the original sounds like "finis est licitus, etiam media sunt licita".
There is also one other English version of this famous phrase closer to the Latin original - "he who wills the end wills the means"

Alexander Kudriavtsev
Local time: 19:47
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in BelarusianBelarusian
PRO pts in pair: 21
Grading comment
thanks for your help and comments!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  DR. RICHARD BAVRY
4 mins

agree  slavist
56 mins

agree  mayakal
6 hrs

agree  Rusinterp
10 hrs

agree  DrSantos: Same phrase is it not? Or am I going blind?
11 hrs
  -> No, you're not. But I humbly think that my explanationis a bit more mature than the one above
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3 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
goals justify means


Explanation:
... goals of each side affect the other? What are each group's methods? Do the goals justify means? How are innocent bystanders affected? What are outcomes of each ...

... politically correct" criticism of a war. Some introduce the notion of a "revolutionary
war" where "goals justify means".





    Reference: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/brown/tguide/
    Reference: http://www.pugwash.org/reports/pac/pac256/WG2draft1.htm
OlgaB

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agree  xxxNermina
16 hrs
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4 hrs
the end sanctifies the means


Explanation:
the end justifies the means — цель оправдывает средства


does the end always justify the means? — всегда ли цель оправдывает средства?

justice should not be propped up with injustice — цель не оправдывает средства; справедливости надо добиваться чистыми руками

the end sanctifies the means — цель оправдывает средства

the totalitarian concept that the end justifies the means — тоталитаристское представление о том, что цель оправдывает средства




    Multilex II. - New Big English-Russian Dictionary in 3 volumes (Mednikova, Apresyan), Moscow, 1993.
Alexander Alexandrov
Russian Federation
Local time: 19:47
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in pair: 98
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18 hrs
The purpose justifies means


Explanation:
...It is a common philosophical assumption that all actions can be analysed as means to the achievement of some end or goal or purpose...


    Reference: http://www.xrefer.com/entry/551914
    Reference: http://www.shortway.to/civil/
Rostov
PRO pts in pair: 8
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19 hrs
the aim is worth of means


Explanation:
it's as a saying

Anzhelika Dregval
Ukraine
Local time: 18:47
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
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