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Russian term or phrase:Кунсткамера
English translation:Kunstkamera /Kunstcamera
Entered by: Natalie
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23:58 Aug 5, 2001
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Russian term or phrase: Кунсткамера
открытие первого музея - Кунсткамеры.
Как лучше перевести это название на английский?
Malibu
Kunstkamera /Kunstcamera
Explanation:
Kunstkamera (German for "Chamber of Art")

Extensive web search has shown that there are NO entries for "Kunst Museum" in St.Petersburg. Instead, there are lots of various Kunst Museums in Germany, Switzerland etc. I suggest therefore using the original German name of this museum, maybe with an explanation in parentheses. You can use German or English transcription (with "k" or "c"). For examples, please see:

The Kunstkamera, German for "Chamber of Art," houses the Museum of Anthropology and Ethnography (not to be confused with the Museum of Ethnography). Located across the Dvortsovy Bridge from the
Winter Palace...
http://www.online.ru/sp/fresh/museums/kunstkam.html

... KUNSTKAMERA. It is the oldest Russian museum. Founded in 1714 on the basis of personal collections gathered by Peter I. From 1727 Kunstkamera was housed in a ...
www.spb-online.ru/spol/eng/his/sig/bld/bld011.asp

... Russian Museum which has more than 200 masterpieces of Russian paintings and Kunstcamera - the oldest museum in Russia, founded by Peter the Great. The world ...
www.oilspill-kaliningrad.com/stPetersburg.htm

City maps of St. Petersburg, Russia. Album Kunstcamera museum, International
Calls, No fees 24/7. ... Kunstcamera museum. St. Petersburg, Russia. ...
www.lak-12.org/piter/maps/?coords=152,377

St. Petersburg pictures album
... Location on the map); Kanal Griboedova (Griboedov channel) (Location on the map); Kunstcamera museum (Location on the map); Mariinsky Theater (Location on the map ...
lak-12.org/piter/html/

... Trezzini. St. Peter and Paul Cathedral. The Kunstcamera (1718-25) was among the first buildings on Vasilievsky Island and housed Peter's museum of oddities ...
www.muhlberg.edu/depts/forlang/LLC/rus_cult/lect6.htm

80 entries for Kunstcamera in Google search
about 900 enties for Kunstkamera (concerning the museum)
Selected response from:

Natalie
Poland
Local time: 12:08
Grading comment
Thank you! I translated it the same way with explanation in parenthesis. Thanks!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

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Summary of answers provided
na +1Kunstkamera /Kunstcamera
Natalie
na +1Kunst MuseumDrSantos
na[COMMENT]DR. RICHARD BAVRY
naKunst Museum (Museum of Curiosities)Alexander Kudriavtsev
na[COMMENT]DR. RICHARD BAVRY


  

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43 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Kunst Museum


Explanation:
I believe they are talking about the Kunst Museum of St. Petersburg (ex-Leningrad).
The Museum was created by Peter the Great as a museum of "curiosities" (freak things of nature). The WHOLE museum is called "Kunst" from the German word for "Art". But in Russian it acquired the meaning of "monstruosity, curiosity". A part of the Museum is dedicated to the "mostruosities" - the Kunst Chamber, but the whole museum became to be know as the Kunst Museum.


    7 years of Russia
DrSantos
Local time: 12:08
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in pair: 39

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  DR. RICHARD BAVRY: i think you are right here Doc!
5 mins
  -> Thanks Rich, you must agree for someone whose mother tongue is neither, I try hard. It is all good clean fun!
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1 hr
[COMMENT]


Explanation:
Yes it is Osmar! We work our butts off because we enjoy it!

;>)

Rich


    Poor in pocket sometimes, but always Rich in spirit!
DR. RICHARD BAVRY
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1 hr
Kunst Museum (Museum of Curiosities)


Explanation:
I would have added an explanatory note about curiosities

Alexander Kudriavtsev
Local time: 14:08
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in BelarusianBelarusian
PRO pts in pair: 21
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1 hr peer agreement (net): +1
Kunstkamera /Kunstcamera


Explanation:
Kunstkamera (German for "Chamber of Art")

Extensive web search has shown that there are NO entries for "Kunst Museum" in St.Petersburg. Instead, there are lots of various Kunst Museums in Germany, Switzerland etc. I suggest therefore using the original German name of this museum, maybe with an explanation in parentheses. You can use German or English transcription (with "k" or "c"). For examples, please see:

The Kunstkamera, German for "Chamber of Art," houses the Museum of Anthropology and Ethnography (not to be confused with the Museum of Ethnography). Located across the Dvortsovy Bridge from the
Winter Palace...
http://www.online.ru/sp/fresh/museums/kunstkam.html

... KUNSTKAMERA. It is the oldest Russian museum. Founded in 1714 on the basis of personal collections gathered by Peter I. From 1727 Kunstkamera was housed in a ...
www.spb-online.ru/spol/eng/his/sig/bld/bld011.asp

... Russian Museum which has more than 200 masterpieces of Russian paintings and Kunstcamera - the oldest museum in Russia, founded by Peter the Great. The world ...
www.oilspill-kaliningrad.com/stPetersburg.htm

City maps of St. Petersburg, Russia. Album Kunstcamera museum, International
Calls, No fees 24/7. ... Kunstcamera museum. St. Petersburg, Russia. ...
www.lak-12.org/piter/maps/?coords=152,377

St. Petersburg pictures album
... Location on the map); Kanal Griboedova (Griboedov channel) (Location on the map); Kunstcamera museum (Location on the map); Mariinsky Theater (Location on the map ...
lak-12.org/piter/html/

... Trezzini. St. Peter and Paul Cathedral. The Kunstcamera (1718-25) was among the first buildings on Vasilievsky Island and housed Peter's museum of oddities ...
www.muhlberg.edu/depts/forlang/LLC/rus_cult/lect6.htm

80 entries for Kunstcamera in Google search
about 900 enties for Kunstkamera (concerning the museum)


Natalie
Poland
Local time: 12:08
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in pair: 3936
Grading comment
Thank you! I translated it the same way with explanation in parenthesis. Thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  DR. RICHARD BAVRY: in retrospect and having searched as well, yes!
52 mins
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2 hrs
[COMMENT]


Explanation:
Nathalia's exhaustive research does pose a problem here...I guess it amounts to what is recognized in English to English speakers (and readers)...not sure where to go here, especially since Dr. Osmar makes so much good sense with the German derivation and the German influence in Russia at the time! Only the asker can decide...


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