# интегральная модель

## English translation: integrated model

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 Russian term or phrase: интегральная модель English translation: integrated model Entered by:

 15:28 Dec 18, 2005
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Science - Science (general)
 Russian term or phrase: интегральная модель Речь идет о математических моделях физических явлений. Для составления этих моделей используются одновременно теоретические и экспериментальные методы (потому, наверное, они и называются интегральными). Честно признаться, я все время путаюсь, когда нужно выбрать между intergal, integrated, etc. при переводе слова "интегральный". Так что любые объяснения приветствуются. Спасибо заранее
 Nik-On/OffUkraine Local time: 01:34
 integrated model Explanation:Sounds best to me! It gives the impression of a proper combination of different methods. Also lots of google hits for "integrated model" mathematics.--------------------------------------------------Note added at 10 mins (2005-12-18 15:39:22 GMT)--------------------------------------------------"integral model" might do, but it sounds more technical, and might also relate to integration (opposite of differentiation) rather than the general meaning of "integrated". A similar phrase is "integrated approach".
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David Knowles
Local time: 23:34
 Thank you all!4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

3 +6integrated model
 David Knowles
4 +1Just an opinion
 Jack Slep
4Comprehensive model
 Victor Potapov
4integral model
 Dimitri Todika
2integral
 Kirill Semenov

6 mins   confidence: peer agreement (net): +6
интегральная модель
integrated model

Explanation:
Sounds best to me! It gives the impression of a proper combination of different methods. Also lots of google hits for "integrated model" mathematics.

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Note added at 10 mins (2005-12-18 15:39:22 GMT)
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"integral model" might do, but it sounds more technical, and might also relate to integration (opposite of differentiation) rather than the general meaning of "integrated". A similar phrase is "integrated approach".

 David KnowlesLocal time: 23:34Native speaker of: EnglishPRO pts in category: 154
 Thank you all!

agree  Mikhail Kriviniouk: since this not about 'integral' as a math thing, but about a combination of models. thus 'integrated'
 4 mins
-> exactly what I was trying to say!

agree  Kirill Semenov: my feeling, too. "Integral" emphasizes the uniting nature while "integrated" is a combination of different approaches. + At the same time, some well-known philosophical theories like Sri Aurobindo's or Ken Wilber's use "integral" as "all-encompassing"
 5 mins
-> You're clearly riding both horses :-)

agree  Victor Potapov: Comprehensive?
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agree
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agree
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agree
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10 mins   confidence:
интегральная модель
integral

Explanation:
Мне кажется, можно так и так. Минус в том, что integral model в математическом контексте может означать и модель на основе интегральных уравнений.

То есть, "интегральная модель" как "единая, общая, всеохватная" vs. integrated/integrating - "интегрированная/интегрирующая" как "вмещающая несколько разных подходов", "включающая какие-то конкретные подходы".

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Note added at 18 mins (2005-12-18 15:47:10 GMT)
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Возможно, тут и правда лучше даже integrating...

 Kirill SemenovUkraineLocal time: 01:34Specializes in fieldNative speaker of: RussianPRO pts in category: 88

neutral  Mikhail Kriviniouk: you yourself explained the reason why I have to be neutral on this, me dear.
 1 min

18 mins   confidence:
интегральная модель
integral model

Explanation:
I do believe that the correct answer is integral model. Integrated is more of something that was done once, where Integral is ongoing.
IMHO :)

 Dimitri TodikaNative speaker of: Russian

2 hrs   confidence:
интегральная модель
Comprehensive model

Explanation:
Вот такой, неожиданно короткий ответ :-)

Переводится смысл - "модель, охватывающая и то, и то". Не "универсальная", конечно - но шаг вперёд по сравнению с обычной моделью.

Удачи!

 Victor PotapovRussian FederationLocal time: 02:34Native speaker of: RussianPRO pts in category: 8

5 hrs   confidence: peer agreement (net): +1
Just an opinion

Explanation:
интегральная has many meanings - integral, integrated, combined, cumulative, mass (precipitation [rainfall] curve), etc. Since theoretical and experimental methods are being used simultaneously, I'd just use "combined" since that's what happening.

 Jack SlepLocal time: 19:34Specializes in fieldNative speaker of: EnglishPRO pts in category: 184

agree  Mikhail Kriviniouk: 'combined' is definitely good in the context
 9 mins
-> THank

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