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English translation: built-in/integral/modular

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Russian term or phrase:vstraivaemye systemy
English translation:built-in/integral/modular
Entered by: Natalie
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07:11 Jan 31, 2001
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering
Russian term or phrase: vstraivaemye systemy
... to shto namertvo zaschito v novoe oborudovanie, bud' to avtomobil ili novaya sotovaya stantsia
Brian KEEGAN
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built-in/integral/modular
Explanation:
built-in/integral/modular can be used in every context
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Natalie
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Summary of answers provided
naembedded systems
Vladimir Dubisskiy
nabuilt-in systems, (integrated, incorporated, integral, embedded) systems, even INTELLIGENCE!
ttagir
naSee below.artyan
naBuilt-in; built into; integral; embedded; fixed; mounted in; incorporated intovip
na...that which is permanently protected in the new equipment, whether it is a vehicle or a cellphone
Jack Doughty
nabuilt-in/integral/modular
Natalie
naEmbedded systemspogorl
nabuilt-in systems
Radian Yazynin


  

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16 mins
built-in systems


Explanation:
A stable phrase used in a variety of technical fields, from electronics, high technology to mechanics and the rest. Absolutely correct.

Radian Yazynin
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18 mins
built-in/integral/modular


Explanation:
built-in/integral/modular can be used in every context



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Natalie
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26 mins
Embedded systems


Explanation:
Термин часто использовался в связи с проблемой Y2K. So called "Embedded systems (or sometimes chips) Y2K compliance"

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3 hrs
...that which is permanently protected in the new equipment, whether it is a vehicle or a cellphone


Explanation:
Would have expected "v novom oborudovanii" rather than "v novoye oborudovaniye".

Jack Doughty
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3 hrs
Built-in; built into; integral; embedded; fixed; mounted in; incorporated into


Explanation:
There is certainly some difference in usage. The best idea may be seen in the examples as follows:

1. The motor has a built-in gear-box (втроенный внутрь чего-либо)
2. The instrument comes with an integral power supply (cделанный заодно с чем-либо)
3. Failure occurred at the embedded end of the beam (вделанный, заделанный)
4. The indexing unit incorporated into a machine tool... (вмонтированный)
5. Every biological system has built-in controls... (заложенный в чем-либо)

Встраиваемый grammatically means smth intended to be built in, while встроенный is built in already. The usage is a matter of taste, but встроенный is more accurate and more frequently used

Thanks


    Russian-English Translator's Dictionary by M.G. Zimmerman, John Wiley & Sons, 1991
    B.V.Kuznetsov's Russian-English Dictionary of Scientific and Technical Usage, M., 1986
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5 hrs
embedded systems


Explanation:
no explanation needed


    collins cobuild english dic
Vladimir Dubisskiy
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6 hrs
built-in systems, (integrated, incorporated, integral, embedded) systems, even INTELLIGENCE!


Explanation:
Dear BKeegan,

In spite of seeing your chars in Latin, I do very hope you can read Cyrillic....or have Schtirlitz ofr decoding.

You have descrived very definitevely that term. The only sorry is that in some cases it is used in one sense, while in other cases the sense in English slightly changes...

E.g.,

встроенная антенна, аппаратура = built-in ...
встроенная батарея = snap-in battery
встроенная клавиатура = integral keyboard
встроенная система = embedded system, inhouse system, integrated system
всроенная система контроля = built-in test circuit
встроенная ЭВМ = embedded computer
встроенное дополнительное средство (электроника) = add-in
встроенное кассетное ЗУ = integrated cassette
встроенное устройство (which seats on the MotherBoard) = integrated device
встроенные гири = dial-operated weights
встроенные средства = intrinsics
встроенный датчик температуры = embedded temperature detector
встроенный детектор = integral detector
встроенная вспышка = integral flash, integrated flash
встроенные вычислительные средства = intelligence
встроенный компонент = add-in device, add-in component
встроенный модем = internal modem, integral modem
встроенный подогреватель = built-in heater
встроенный подшипник = inboard bearing
ETC.........

So, let us note that

1. if something was built when the more general sibject was constructed, you might use BUILT-IN

2. if something is put and used in sauch way that the whole unit cannot work without this thing, you might use inboard, integral, internal, add-in (specially for electronics).

3.If something is used to control the whole device (e.g., for a turning tool or maching) you might use, e.g., EMBEDDED COMPUTER

4. If you need to translate something mentioning with a certain irony this property of being built-in, you might use e.g., phrase

... all those built-in, incorporated, integrated and so on devices, whiout which nothing works...

Hope slightly helped even being lastб seemingly (my mail-server is unstable since Friday!)

Sincerely yours,
Dr. Tagir S. Tagirov,
KSU.


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15 hrs
See below.


Explanation:

In my view, both “built-in” and “embed” will do. However, to be more exact, there are certain differences in their use. “Built-in” seems to be more useful in your context, whereas “embed” is more common in a situation, where there is a firm, surrounding mass, into which the object is fixed (i.e. «vmurovanniy”, “zadelanniy”, “zalitiy”, etc.). See the differences in the definitions below, which I collected from various monolingual sources:



built-in
made or incorporated as an integral part: a built-in cupboard; a built-in escape clause.

embeded
become fixed firmly and deeply in a surrounding solid mass: to embed a nail in wood.
(from WordReference.com)

A structure that is built-in is made to be a permanent part of something:
Built-in bookcases lined the walls of the library.
(from Cambridge Dictionary of American English )


embed
To fix firmly in a surrounding mass: To enclose snugly or firmly. To cause to be an integral part of a surrounding whole.
(from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language)



Although nothing will be wrong to say, for instance, “an embedded computer” («встроенная ЭВМ»), the word “embedded” seems to be more applicable in a context, where the Russian words “мурованный”;”заделанный”, «залитый» («vmurovanniy”, “zadelanniy”, “zalitiy”), etc. will be naturally used. See a couple of Russian translations for “embedded” from MultiLex:

embedded heating — панельное отопление
embedded length — заделанная часть (сваи)


Best regards,
Artyan



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