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"форточка" - "un vasistas"

French translation: Îò íåìåöêîãî " was ist das?"

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21:43 Oct 27, 2002
Russian to French translations [PRO]
Russian term or phrase: "форточка" - "un vasistas"
Кто знает происхождение этого слова во французском языке?
Заранее спасибо
Svetlana Touloub
Local time: 14:20
French translation:Îò íåìåöêîãî " was ist das?"
Explanation:
Ñëîâàðü Le Petit Larousse 1995

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Ïðèâîæó öåëèêîì âñþ ñëîâàðíóþ ñòàòüþ (èçâèíèòå, áåç äèàêðèòèêè ïî èçâåñòíûì Âàì ïðè÷èíàì):

VASISTAS [vazistas] n.m. (all. was ist das? = qu\'est-ce c\'est?). Vantail vitre faisant partie de l\'imposte ou d\'un grand vantail d\'une baie.

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Âîò èç äðóãîãî ñëîâàðÿ, áîëåå äðåâíåãî (Dictionnaire Pratique Quillet), 1958

Vasistas [stass] n.m. (corrupt. de l\'all was ist das? qu\'est cela?). Partie mobile d\'une porte ou d\'une fenetre que l\'on ouvre, seule, pour l\'aeration).

Âîîáùå, ÿ õî÷ó Âàì ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ôîðòî÷êè î÷åíü íåòèïè÷íû äëÿ òðàäèöèîííûõ ôðàíöóçñêèõ äîìîâ. Ìîæåò áûòü, ýòî îáúÿñíÿåò ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ íàçâàíèÿ? Ó íåìöåâ ôîðòî÷êè ÷àñòî âñòðå÷àþòñÿ.

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Note added at 2002-10-27 22:16:50 (GMT)
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Etymologie - Sammlung, Worte beginnend mit V
... le vasistas = das Guckfenster zitiert aus \"ecoute\": Alors que les troupes ... ouvraient une petite fenetre ¨¤ leur passage et demandaient: \"Was ist das?\" L ...
http://www.etymologie.info/et/etsam_v.html

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Note added at 2002-10-27 22:25:44 (GMT)
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Slovo upotreblyaetsya, no ne skazat\' chtob chasto. Potomu chto sami fortochki ne chasty. Trudno skazat\' chem eto ob\'yasnit\'. Tradicia. Krome togo, letom okna i tak otkryty. A zimoj neohota teryat\' teplo..Ne znayu.

Inogda vmesto Vasistas govoryat \"Volet d\'aeration\".

Ili delayut primechanie k Vasistas. Inogda naoborot - slovo Vasistas stoit v primechanii.

Primer:

Classification de Locarno
... A0008, abat-vent de cheminees, C0338. A0059, aeration (volets d’-) [vasistas],
V0063. A0250, appuis de fenetres, W0178. A0313, ascenseurs (portes d’-), E0061.
A0373, ...
http://www.wipo.org/classifications/ fulltext/locarno/frbt25.htm

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Note added at 2002-10-27 22:40:46 (GMT)
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Inogda govoryat \"vasistas\'daeration\". Sm. nizhe primer.

... Avec TR10I/24 cremaillère applicable dans des systemes ou les vasistas d\'aeration et d aération contraire doivent pouvoir etre commandees en meme ...
http://www.ridderweb.com/ras/PDF/Tandheugel/TR10i_omkeer.pdf

Imejte v vidu, chto \"vasistas\" i \"volet d\'aeration\" mogut byt\' ne tolko v okne (steklyannye), no i v kamine (metallicheskie). Kak v vyshe privedennom primere. Chto takoe \"cremaiilere\", ya dumayu Vy znaete?

Vot esche interesnyj sajt ob istorii slova VASISTAS:

Le Vasistas
... Sous la Revolution, le vasistas a designe la lucarne de la guillotine.\" d\'apres ... une publication du meme nom qui se concoit comme une fenetre d\'aeration ...
http://www.gwdg.de/~romania/frz/lekt/Ctresor@site/ Le%20Vasistas000.html

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Îò íåìåöêîãî " was ist das?"


Explanation:
Ñëîâàðü Le Petit Larousse 1995

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Note added at 2002-10-27 22:01:42 (GMT)
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Ïðèâîæó öåëèêîì âñþ ñëîâàðíóþ ñòàòüþ (èçâèíèòå, áåç äèàêðèòèêè ïî èçâåñòíûì Âàì ïðè÷èíàì):

VASISTAS [vazistas] n.m. (all. was ist das? = qu\'est-ce c\'est?). Vantail vitre faisant partie de l\'imposte ou d\'un grand vantail d\'une baie.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2002-10-27 22:08:59 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Âîò èç äðóãîãî ñëîâàðÿ, áîëåå äðåâíåãî (Dictionnaire Pratique Quillet), 1958

Vasistas [stass] n.m. (corrupt. de l\'all was ist das? qu\'est cela?). Partie mobile d\'une porte ou d\'une fenetre que l\'on ouvre, seule, pour l\'aeration).

Âîîáùå, ÿ õî÷ó Âàì ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ôîðòî÷êè î÷åíü íåòèïè÷íû äëÿ òðàäèöèîííûõ ôðàíöóçñêèõ äîìîâ. Ìîæåò áûòü, ýòî îáúÿñíÿåò ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ íàçâàíèÿ? Ó íåìöåâ ôîðòî÷êè ÷àñòî âñòðå÷àþòñÿ.

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Note added at 2002-10-27 22:16:50 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

§³§Ó§Ö§ä§Ý§Ñ§ß§Ñ, §á§â§à§é§Ú§ä§Ñ§Û§ä§Ö, §Ó§à§ä §à§Ò§ì§ñ§ã§ß§Ö§ß§Ú§Ö §ä§à§Ô§à, §Ü§Ñ§Ü §ï§ä§à §ã§Ý§à§Ó§à §á§â§à§Ú§Ù§à§ê§Ý§à §Ú §á§à§á§Ñ§Ý§à §Ó§à §æ§â§Ñ§ß§è§å§Ù§ã§Ü§Ú§Û §ñ§Ù§í§Ü:

Etymologie - Sammlung, Worte beginnend mit V
... le vasistas = das Guckfenster zitiert aus \"ecoute\": Alors que les troupes ... ouvraient une petite fenetre ¨¤ leur passage et demandaient: \"Was ist das?\" L ...
http://www.etymologie.info/et/etsam_v.html

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Note added at 2002-10-27 22:25:44 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Slovo upotreblyaetsya, no ne skazat\' chtob chasto. Potomu chto sami fortochki ne chasty. Trudno skazat\' chem eto ob\'yasnit\'. Tradicia. Krome togo, letom okna i tak otkryty. A zimoj neohota teryat\' teplo..Ne znayu.

Inogda vmesto Vasistas govoryat \"Volet d\'aeration\".

Ili delayut primechanie k Vasistas. Inogda naoborot - slovo Vasistas stoit v primechanii.

Primer:

Classification de Locarno
... A0008, abat-vent de cheminees, C0338. A0059, aeration (volets d’-) [vasistas],
V0063. A0250, appuis de fenetres, W0178. A0313, ascenseurs (portes d’-), E0061.
A0373, ...
http://www.wipo.org/classifications/ fulltext/locarno/frbt25.htm

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2002-10-27 22:40:46 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Inogda govoryat \"vasistas\'daeration\". Sm. nizhe primer.

... Avec TR10I/24 cremaillère applicable dans des systemes ou les vasistas d\'aeration et d aération contraire doivent pouvoir etre commandees en meme ...
http://www.ridderweb.com/ras/PDF/Tandheugel/TR10i_omkeer.pdf

Imejte v vidu, chto \"vasistas\" i \"volet d\'aeration\" mogut byt\' ne tolko v okne (steklyannye), no i v kamine (metallicheskie). Kak v vyshe privedennom primere. Chto takoe \"cremaiilere\", ya dumayu Vy znaete?

Vot esche interesnyj sajt ob istorii slova VASISTAS:

Le Vasistas
... Sous la Revolution, le vasistas a designe la lucarne de la guillotine.\" d\'apres ... une publication du meme nom qui se concoit comme une fenetre d\'aeration ...
http://www.gwdg.de/~romania/frz/lekt/Ctresor@site/ Le%20Vasistas000.html



xxxVera Fluhr
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