razredna nastava/predmetna nastava

English translation: class teaching / subject teaching

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Serbo-Croat term or phrase:	razredna nastava/predmetna nastava
English translation:	class teaching / subject teaching
Entered by:	Bogdan Petrovic

12:39 Jun 21, 2006

Serbo-Croat to English translations [PRO]
Education / Pedagogy

Serbo-Croat term or phrase: razredna nastava/predmetna nastava

Pripadnici nacionalnih manjina školuju se, u skladu sa zakonskim rešenjima, tako što se celokupni nastavni proces u razrednoj nastavi (od I-IV razreda) realizuje na njihovom maternjem jeziku za Slovake, Rumune i Rusine, kao i Mađare, Albance i Hrvate i u predmetnoj nastavi počev od školske 2006/2007. godine (u petom razredu).

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class teaching / subject teaching

Explanation:
"Nacionalni program odgoja i obrazovanja za ljudska prava : prvi dio : predškolski odgoj, osnovna škola - razredna i predmetna nastava, srednja škola / Vlada Republike Hrvatske, Nacionalni odbor za obrazovanje o ljudskim pravima ; Darko Goettlicher. - Zagreb : Vlada Republike Hrvatske, 1999. - 155 str. ; 24 cm. - (Knjižnica Dokumenti ; knj. 3). - ISBN 953-6430-09-6.
PRIJEVOD: National program of human rights education : part one : pre-school education, elementary school - class and subject teaching, secondary school / Government of the Republic of Croatia, National Committee for Human Rights Education (1999.). ISBD 953-6430-11-8"
(http://www.hidra.hr/index_sdrh/L003460H.HTM)

a pogedajte i:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1099025?float=1

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Ovde je opisano, i to na engleskom, šta znači razredna nastava, a šta predmetna nastava, kako je u svim ex-Yu državama - za one koji to ne znaju, ili su, možda, zaboravili:
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF CROATIA
OFFICE FOR THE STRATEGY OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF
CROATIA
...

The first part of the curriculum is being conducted by means of so-called class teaching (in which one teacher teaches 6 subjects), and the second part is conducted by means of so-called subject teaching (each subject is taught by a specialized teacher). Each of the parts of the curriculum lasts for four years."
(http://www.see-educoop.net/education_in/pdf/bela_knjiga-cro-...

Da se ovde radi o školskom sistemu neke druge zemlje (npr. UK, Sri Lanke itd), sigurno se ovi termini ne bi mogli primeniti. Takođe, prevodioci treba da prevode, a ne da vrše nekakvu laičku i nekompetentnu nostrifikaciju/ekvivalenciju zvanja, naziva diploma i sl. (naših i inostranih) jednostavnim prepisivanjem i ubacivanjem u naše školstvo stranih, a suštinski neodgovarajućih termina. I na KudoZ-u je do sada bilo puno rasprava na tu temu, a u tom smislu su korisna i uputstva za sudske tumače sa Sudačke mreže Hrvatske - videti t. 15:
http://www.sudacka-mreza.hr/public/vt_faq.htm#prijevodi_inoz...

Selected response from:

V&M Stanković
Serbia
Local time: 19:18

Grading comment

hvala!
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Summary of answers provided

5 +2

class teaching / subject teaching

V&M Stanković

classroom instruction / subject instruction

Sherefedin MUSTAFA

lower/upper primary

Radica Schenck

Answers

5 hrs confidence:

classroom instruction / subject instruction

Explanation:
razredna nastava
Njemački: Klassenunterricht
Ref.: http://www.ifos.de/anabin/scripts/SelectLand.asp?SuchLand=20...
http://library.thinkquest.org/C005704/content_teaching_cim.p...
http://www.sfsu.edu/~bulletin/noindex/9496/otherpgm/single.h...

Sherefedin MUSTAFA
Netherlands
Local time: 19:18
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Albanian,

Macedonian
PRO pts in category: 8

15 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

class teaching / subject teaching

V&M Stanković
Serbia
Local time: 19:18
Native speaker of:

Serbian,

Serbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

hvala!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

A.Đapo

10 mins

-> hvala

disagree

Radica Schenck: class teaching je pogresno, mada se "nasim" prevodiocima cini pravo resenje. cak je u navedenom linku sa predjasnjeg kudoz pitanja "Large Class Teaching" je "large class" + teaching, sto znaci nastava u velikim klasovima :-)

3 hrs

-> žao mi je, mislim da niste u pravu - vidite dopunu (gore)

agree

Sherefedin MUSTAFA

5 hrs

-> hvala

agree

Veronica Prpic Uhing: Tako to zovu u skoli moje slatke kcerkice u US of A

1 day 4 hrs

-> hvala i pozdrav vašim ćerkicama :)

neutral

Kid A (X): A friend of mine and I translated the document of this sort from Macedonian into English and we had the exact problem. We are not too happy with it, but in the absence of a more suitable solution, we have settled for class and subject teaching.

14 days

3 hrs confidence:

lower/upper primary

Explanation:
Compulsory education is divided into primary school, consisting of lower primary level (grades 1-4) and upper primary level (grades 5-7) and lower secondary school (grades 8-10). In sparsely populated areas the primary and lower secondary schools may be very small, and there may be only a few pupils in each age group. Such schools often utilize mixed-age classes.

http://www.norway.org.uk/education/education/primary/primary...
Currently, the Ministry of Education has standard furniture specifications for primary (grades 1 - 5, upper primary (grades 6 – 8 and secondary (grades 9 and above) school students... http://unjobs.org/vacancies/1149629648.81

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The primary school Dimo Hadzi Dimov is one of the largest schools in TFYR Macedonia. There are 1,600 pupils in 45 classes. It has been functioning for 35 years and in the course of the last several years it has been involved in different projects as for example:" Interactive learning" in lower primary education; in upper primary education a differentiated approach in physics and biology is applied, and since last year the project "Inclusion of Children with Disabilities into Mainstream Education". The project is managed by the Pedagogical Institute of TFYR Macedonia.

http://www.unicef.org/teachers/forum/0100.htm

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ja bi pisala lower primary (grades 1-4) and upper primary (grades 5-8)... videla sam i verzije sa class teaching, grade (sic!) teaching, ecc. lower/upper primary je podela koja se odnosi na sistem osnovnog obrazovanja 1-4 i 5-8, ne racunajuci sisteme sa dodanom startnom godinom pre prvog razreda "zero year", ne uzimajuci u obzir sisteme sa "elementary education", etc.

www.see-educoop.net/education_in/ pdf/private-sector-edu-cro-enl-t05.pdf

ili
General education consists of lower primary 4 years + upper primary 4 years + (non-compulsory) secondary 4 years. Vocational: after primary, 3 and 5-year vocational and technical secondary. 5-year programmes lead to Maturita exams. 4-year vocational programmes were phased out after 1998.

http://www.olis.oecd.org/OLIS/2001DOC.NSF/43bb6130e5e86e5fc1...$FILE/JT00129648.DOC.

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primeri se odnose na Makedoniju, Hrvatsku i Albaniju... izvori su oecd, WB, uncf...

Radica Schenck
Germany
Local time: 19:18
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Macedonian

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