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a pesar incluso del ser humano

English translation: even in spite of the human being himself

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Spanish term or phrase:a pesar incluso del ser humano
English translation:even in spite of the human being himself
Entered by: margaret caulfield

20:46 Feb 13, 2010
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Advertising / Public Relations
Spanish term or phrase: a pesar incluso del ser humano
El contexto se encuentra en la frase introductoria de un artículo sobre el impacto de la publicidad en televisón sobre "el ser humano". Aquí:

"La publicidad en la televisión tiene un gran impacto en el comportamiento social del ser humano, a pesar incluso del ser humano."

Hay que observar que se juega con "ser humano", que se repite dos veces. Por otro lado, el final de la frase puede interpretarse como "a pesar incluso del propio ser humano". Le he dado muchas vuestas a "human being" "man" y otras posibilidades. Finalmente lo interpreto, no muy convencido así:

"Advertising on television has a great impact on the social behavior of man, and that even in spite of man".
Eugenio Llorente
Spain
Local time: 00:53
even in spite of the human being himself
Explanation:
I think this fits.
Selected response from:

margaret caulfield
Local time: 00:53
Grading comment
Muchas gracias, Margaret. Corresponde al sentido. Pero para mi contexto he preferido emplear "man".
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +1even in spite of the human being himself
margaret caulfield
4 +1even in spite of their being human
David Ronder
4even despite human beings themselves
Liliana Lopez
4even in spite of himself/in spite of his very humanity
twiginbeak
3, willy nilly.
Bubo Coroman (X)


  

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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
even in spite of the human being himself


Explanation:
I think this fits.

margaret caulfield
Local time: 00:53
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 36
Grading comment
Muchas gracias, Margaret. Corresponde al sentido. Pero para mi contexto he preferido emplear "man".

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Victoria Frazier
1 day 9 hrs
  -> Thanks, Victoria
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
even despite human beings themselves


Explanation:
Suena bien, apenas.

Liliana Lopez
Brazil
Local time: 19:53
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
even in spite of their being human


Explanation:
I think you need to keep it simple to reflect the word-play - human being, being human. So:

"Advertising on television has a big impact on the social behaviour of human beings, even in spite of their being human."

I read it as a humorous/sardonic observation, though I could be wrong.

You could also have a slightly different word order - "in spite, even, of..."

David Ronder
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  James A. Walsh: Like it David - neat solution! (added) Ha, I wish!! Lots of work all weekend... :(
14 mins
  -> Thanks, James. Shouldn't you be out on the town?
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
even in spite of himself/in spite of his very humanity


Explanation:
I believe it can be read in either of these two ways.

twiginbeak
Local time: 16:53
Native speaker of: English
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
, willy nilly.


Explanation:
"... the social behaviour of human beings, willy nilly."

wil·ly-nil·ly (wl-nl)
adv.
1. Whether desired or not: After her boss fell sick, she willy-nilly found herself directing the project
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/willy-nilly

Bubo Coroman (X)
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 162
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