sobredeterminan

English translation: to overdetermine

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Spanish term or phrase:sobredeterminar
English translation: to overdetermine
Entered by: Theodore Quester

07:50 Aug 28, 2001
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
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Spanish term or phrase: sobredeterminan
chilean academic again
I just need the term, not this monster sentence.

Pero a la crítica cultural le interesaría, además y sobre todo, preguntarse más específicamente cómo deben abordarse estos nuevos objetos (a través de qué nuevos registros de conocimiento y también de escritura) para que la relaçión entre terioa y novación pase por un cuestionamiento no sólo conceptual sino también retórico de las formas de habla que sobredeterminan los saberes heredados de la disciplinas, ya que son estas formas las que los ponen en situación de "exclusión o inclusión, complicidad o resistencia, dominacion or relajo, abstracción o conyuturalidad, monólogo o polílogo, quietismo o activismo, mismedad u otredad, opresión o emancipación, centralización o descentralización" frente al lenguage codificador del program académico.
Theodore Quester
United States
Local time: 00:27
overdetermine
Explanation:
Hello,

I think there's a rather direct equivalent in English. Here's the definition from the Marxist theory and an example.

Are you translating one of those "cultural criticism" Chilean authors? Oh my God... :-))) Their jargon is hard even in Spanish... Good luck!!

DAvid


"Overdetermine

This term expresses the notion within modern Marxism that even the most important element of the social structure not only determines other elements but is also affected by them. It was originally used by L. Althusser to indicate that what he and other Marxists saw as the basic contradiction in society, between capital and labour, could be modified (overdetermined) by other contradictions, for example that between urban and rural. The concept therefore forms part of his objection to economic determinism in Marxism.


The Penguin Dictionary of Sociology, © Nicholas Abercrombie, Stephen Hill and Bryan S. Turner 1994"
(http://www.xrefer.com/entry/105363)


"This faith comes in many guises but according to Craycraft, Bloom outlines three common features, "all of which signify departures from historic Christianity", and all of which "overdetermine: our national life": 1) revival of the ancient philosophy of Gnosticism; 2) individualism and radical personal autonomy; 3) non-sacramental salvation, unmediated by the church. "
(http://www.citizenmg.com/craycraft.html)

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David Meléndez Tormen
Chile
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Thanks a bundle. And yeah, I'm translating half of a book by Nelly Richard.
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David Meléndez Tormen
napredetermine
Katherine Matles
nadictates the nature of
Parrot


  

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14 mins
overdetermine


Explanation:
Hello,

I think there's a rather direct equivalent in English. Here's the definition from the Marxist theory and an example.

Are you translating one of those "cultural criticism" Chilean authors? Oh my God... :-))) Their jargon is hard even in Spanish... Good luck!!

DAvid


"Overdetermine

This term expresses the notion within modern Marxism that even the most important element of the social structure not only determines other elements but is also affected by them. It was originally used by L. Althusser to indicate that what he and other Marxists saw as the basic contradiction in society, between capital and labour, could be modified (overdetermined) by other contradictions, for example that between urban and rural. The concept therefore forms part of his objection to economic determinism in Marxism.


The Penguin Dictionary of Sociology, © Nicholas Abercrombie, Stephen Hill and Bryan S. Turner 1994"
(http://www.xrefer.com/entry/105363)


"This faith comes in many guises but according to Craycraft, Bloom outlines three common features, "all of which signify departures from historic Christianity", and all of which "overdetermine: our national life": 1) revival of the ancient philosophy of Gnosticism; 2) individualism and radical personal autonomy; 3) non-sacramental salvation, unmediated by the church. "
(http://www.citizenmg.com/craycraft.html)



David Meléndez Tormen
Chile
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in pair: 475
Grading comment
Thanks a bundle. And yeah, I'm translating half of a book by Nelly Richard.
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20 mins
predetermine


Explanation:
it seems to work with the context of the text in question


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Katherine Matles
Spain
Local time: 06:27
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 867
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1 hr
dictates the nature of


Explanation:
the knowledge...
Or: conditions the knowledge.

Just a couple of suggestions.

In one word, though, there exists a parallel etymology for this term in physics - superdetermine.

Parrot
Spain
Local time: 06:27
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 7645
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