Conjunto de vehiculos (vs vehiculo articulado)

English translation: combined / combination vehicle (vs articulated vehicle)

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Spanish term or phrase:Conjunto de vehiculos (vs vehiculo articulado)
English translation:combined / combination vehicle (vs articulated vehicle)
Entered by: Charles Davis

12:23 Jul 23, 2018
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs / Driving Licence
Spanish term or phrase: Conjunto de vehiculos (vs vehiculo articulado)
I realise this term has already been queried several times, and in the past I've always been happy with the translation of 'articulated vehicle), however, in this example, a Colombian driving licence, I have the problem that both 'conunto de vehiculos' and 'vehiculo articulado' appear independently.

Under: 'Categorias de licencia' , one of the entries is '06 Vehiculos articulados de servicio publico'
but then under: ' Restricciones del conductor', there appears: '06 No puede conducir conjuntos de vehiculos'

So, not only do both terms appear, which leads me to believe they should have different translations, but also, the licence seems to contradict itself, first saying that articulated vehicles are a permitted category, but then saying the driver may not drive them.

Any help with the confusion welcome!
Catherine Mactaggart
Australia
Local time: 04:58
combined / combination vehicle (vs articulated vehicle)
Explanation:
Frankly this is just a way of finding another expression for the same thing, since I think a "conjunto de vehículos" is an articulated vehicle. See this definition in a memorandum from the Colombian Ministry of Transport on driving instruction:

"El artículo 11 del Acuerdo 051 de 1993 exige para sexta (6ª) categoría impartir instrucción en vehículos articulados; la definición que traía el artículo 2, modificado por el Decreto 1809 de 1990 del Decreto 1344 dd 1970 es la siguiente: Conjunto de vehículos integrado por una unidad tractora y un semirremolque o uno o más remolques."
https://www.mintransporte.gov.co/descargar.php?idFile=2981

This is from a Colombian Police driving instruction manual:

" Ancho del carril para vehículos articulados con eje del semirremolque rígido y
conjuntos con remolque de un sólo eje: de 3,50 a 4,50 metros.
 Ancho del carril para vehículos articulados con eje del semirremolque
autodireccionable: de 3,50 a 4,50 metros.
 Ancho del carril conjunto de vehículo rígido y remolque con eje delantero
móvil: 7 metros."
http://www.policia.edu.co/documentos/normatividad_2016/manua...

As far as I can see a vehículo articulado is a conjunto de vehículos, though there may be conjuntos de vehículos that are not technically vehículos articulados; it's very difficult to tell.

It seems to me, though, that if restriction 06 applies to you (No puede conducir conjuntos de vehiculos), you can't drive articulated vehicles, so maybe that's not the licence category in this case.

Anyway, the expression "combined vehicle" or "combination vehicle does exist, and I think you might use it for "conjunto de vehículos", just to have a different term:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_combination_vehicle

"Whereas the weight per driving axle of five or six-axle combined vehicles should be fixed as soon as possible"
"Considerando que es conveniente fijar lo antes posible el peso por eje motor de los conjuntos de vehículos de 5 ó 6 ejes"
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN-ES/TXT/?uri=CELEX...
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Truck platooning
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combined / combination vehicle (vs articulated vehicle)


Explanation:
Frankly this is just a way of finding another expression for the same thing, since I think a "conjunto de vehículos" is an articulated vehicle. See this definition in a memorandum from the Colombian Ministry of Transport on driving instruction:

"El artículo 11 del Acuerdo 051 de 1993 exige para sexta (6ª) categoría impartir instrucción en vehículos articulados; la definición que traía el artículo 2, modificado por el Decreto 1809 de 1990 del Decreto 1344 dd 1970 es la siguiente: Conjunto de vehículos integrado por una unidad tractora y un semirremolque o uno o más remolques."
https://www.mintransporte.gov.co/descargar.php?idFile=2981

This is from a Colombian Police driving instruction manual:

" Ancho del carril para vehículos articulados con eje del semirremolque rígido y
conjuntos con remolque de un sólo eje: de 3,50 a 4,50 metros.
 Ancho del carril para vehículos articulados con eje del semirremolque
autodireccionable: de 3,50 a 4,50 metros.
 Ancho del carril conjunto de vehículo rígido y remolque con eje delantero
móvil: 7 metros."
http://www.policia.edu.co/documentos/normatividad_2016/manua...

As far as I can see a vehículo articulado is a conjunto de vehículos, though there may be conjuntos de vehículos that are not technically vehículos articulados; it's very difficult to tell.

It seems to me, though, that if restriction 06 applies to you (No puede conducir conjuntos de vehiculos), you can't drive articulated vehicles, so maybe that's not the licence category in this case.

Anyway, the expression "combined vehicle" or "combination vehicle does exist, and I think you might use it for "conjunto de vehículos", just to have a different term:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_combination_vehicle

"Whereas the weight per driving axle of five or six-axle combined vehicles should be fixed as soon as possible"
"Considerando que es conveniente fijar lo antes posible el peso por eje motor de los conjuntos de vehículos de 5 ó 6 ejes"
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN-ES/TXT/?uri=CELEX...

Charles Davis
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Reference comments


5 hrs
Reference: Truck platooning

Reference information:
This is the thing I mentioned in the Discussion. A number of trucks equipped with state-of-the-art driving support systems – one closely following the other. But AFAIK it's not up and running yet in the EU. Don't know about elsewhere.

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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/truck-platooning-...

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https://www.cips.org/supply-management/news/2017/august/truc...

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“We have some of the busiest motorways in Europe … platooning may work on the miles of deserted freeways in Arizona or Nevada but this is not America,”...


    https://www.eutruckplatooning.com/About/default.aspx
neilmac
Spain
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