Indisciplina o desobediencia en el trabajo

15:38 Aug 20, 2018 

Thanks for following up on this, Domini.

12:56 Aug 17, 2018 

I promised to post these links when at the PC. I know the question is now closed, but I am posting them for the sake of completion (and because I promised!). Also in case they are useful in future.

Note "serious insubordination" as included as a form of gross misconduct on p.32 of this link: http://www.acas.org.uk/media/pdf/9/g/Discipline-and-grievanc...

Also, end of first paragraph of section 2 of this document: https://www.lawdonut.co.uk/business/employment-law/disciplin...

As mentioned previously, I can only find serious /gross insubordination as a 'sub-section' and, unless an employee is wholly unsuitable (and probably shouldn't have been hired in the first place!), it should take quite a bit of doing to get to this point!

20:15 Aug 16, 2018 

That’s very kind of you. Glad it was helpful. :-)

12:26 Aug 15, 2018 

This has been tickling my brain since posting the neutral comment to your reference entry and I have done some more digging. I find I am wrong and gross insubordination can be a cause of disciplinary etc in the UK as well (though the employment contracts I was involved in have never included it and, when talking to another manager, they said they had the same experience as me). I still think desobedencia may be more general here, however I feel I must apologise for originally saying insubordination doesn’t apply as a cause for disciplinary in the UK. I tried to delete my neutral comment completely but the system wouldn’t let me. Hence this note. I can’t post the link I found just now (on Ipad), but will do when I get a chance for sake of completeness.

16:35 Aug 11, 2018 

That's kind. Have done and credited you as well to the extent that it's possible. :-)

15:19 Aug 11, 2018 

feel free to post yourself

22:11 Aug 10, 2018 

I was about to post "misconduct and failure to comply with regulations" and saw your comment. If you post it as an answer I will agree with you. I think "regulations" rather than "rules" in a work context but I'll leave that choice up to you. Just had a discussion with another manager who says the same. My comments always presuppose a UK context.

22:00 Aug 10, 2018 

Unless... there is a link with 'financial discipline'? It doesn't sound like it, but you did classify the question as 'financial' as well as business, hence the mention.

21:36 Aug 10, 2018 

Having written numerous staff and volunteer contracts (as a manager) in conjunction with HR professionals, I haven’t ever used disobedience or indiscipline in a work context. Also, unless there is an explicit reason (in the wider context) to include ‘discipline’ or ‘indiscipline’ I would be reticent to use them in this kind of list form because there could be a ‘confusion’ with a Disciplinary/ ‘need to discipline’ a member of staff leading to a Disciplinary. Usually this would be included in a company’s/department’s Disciplinary Policy, however there could be mention of the verb discipline with this meaning in an employment contract as well. I'm referring to the UK. I don't know about the US.

09:01 Aug 10, 2018 

failure to obey orders or to (conform to) comply with the rules - I suppose they mean such things as timekeeping by that.

For me "failure to" is the key

22:36 Aug 9, 2018 

For what it's worth, I also prefer "non-compliance" or "insubordination" to "disobedience" in this context.

20:49 Aug 9, 2018 

not only used in a military context but has a specific meaning in HR matters so let's see what others have to say

20:41 Aug 9, 2018 

maybe "insubordination" rather than "disobedience"

20:36 Aug 9, 2018 

I'm not sure about using "disobedience". It sounds as though it's referring to a child rather than an employee.