Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
orden de hacer o no hacer
English translation:
order to proceed/execute or not to proceed/execute
Spanish term
orden de hacer o no hacer
"Las órdenes provisionales, **órdenes de hacer o no hacer** y de cese y desistimiento podrán ser promovidas por la Junta de XXXX a iniciativa propia o a solicitud de persona con interés legítimo."
I am not trained in legal terminology; this document has a few paragraphs of this sort. I can't find the term in my dictionaries. Please help! I really appreciate your time.
Aug 22, 2010 22:32: Laureana Pavon changed "Term asked" from "órden de hacer o no hacer" to "orden de hacer o no hacer"
Proposed translations
orders to carry out/execute or not carry out/execute
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Richard Boulter
: I would believe 'execute/not execute', I guess, though I've never seen it and don't find it in dictionaries. Also, perhaps 'compliance order/ order to comply'.
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Hi, and thanks, Richard.
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order to do or not do
Puerto Rican legal terms are often literal translations of US terms and are hardly understood at all in other Spanish-speaking countries.
Thank you, Henry. You're so right about PR legal terms often being literal translations of US terms! But, as Muriel says, your version seems always to have a direct object, so I decided not to use this option. Next week the agency MAY tell me what the client prefers--we'll see. Thanks for your help. |
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Muriel Vasconcellos (X)
: Though I couldn't find any references that didn't have an object. So I would add "[something]" in square brackets.
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Gracias, Muriel.
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Richard Boulter
: I agree with Henry's logic, considering Puerto Rican law's paralleling and translating U.S. law. Like Muriel, I would like to include a direct object but if it isn't in the source one can hardly invent it.
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Gracias, Richard.
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cmwilliams (X)
: I think a legal term is required.
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That's it. That's how it is expressed.
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command/order to take or refrain from taking an action
See paragraph 35 of the Spanish and English texts in the references ...
http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/%28Symbol%29/CAT.C.44.Add.5.Sp?OpenDocument
http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/%28Symbol%29/CAT.C.44.Add.5.En?Opendocument
Thanks, Jackie. I liked this option, but couldn't work it into the sentence easily with the "cease and desist" that followed. The client, however, will probably tell the agency the "proper" term in their usage. Thanks for your help. |
mandatory or prohibitory injunction
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Note added at 10 hrs (2010-08-23 07:21:36 GMT)
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Hi Jane,
Although “injunction” is certainly most often associated with the courts, many U.S. governmental agencies (state and federal) are empowered to issue “administrative injunctions.” I’m posting below some references in which “administrative injunction” is used or which refer to both “judicial and administrative injunctions.” For the sake of clarity, perhaps in your context you could translate “órden de hacer o no hacer” as “mandatory or prohibitory administrative injunction.”
The department has the authority to order someone to stop practicing without a license by issuing an administrative injunction. ...
online.drl.wi.gov/decisions/2009/ls0802185unl-00076416.pdf
NLRA, thus upholding a state administrative injunction against ... Life Ins. Co. v NLRB, 159 F2d 280, 284 (4th Cir 1947)
www.jstor.org/stable/1600039
... of compliance with the EPA's administrative injunction to clean the land. .... See Environmental Protection Agency, Superfund Enforcement Strategy and ...
https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/.../app?...
... were put in place and an administrative injunction requiring large portions of the ... Eventually, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency did further ...
4563.pd.lawyers.com/News/Case%20Wins.aspx - Cached
20 May 2010... compliance and enforcement, environmental protection agency, ..... issue an immediate administrative injunction on the COM TECH project. ...
www.docstoc.com/.../Re-Request-for-Environmental-Assessment... - Cached
Agency Authority To Promulgate Rule Establishing Stop Work Orders. ... A stop work order is, in essence, an “administrative” injunction. ...
www.tba.org/tba_files/AG/OP105.pdf
State of California
(H) The violation is also a violation of a judicial or administrative injunction or order. (I) The business entity does not have in place an internal ...
info.sen.ca.gov/pub/93-94/.../sb_1747_bill_940224_introduced
... shall be in effect and shall have become final and nonappealable or if any restraint resulting from any judicial or administrative injunction, judgment, ...
www.secinfo.com/d11MXs.v1GCc.d.htm
In case closing is barred by a judicial or administrative injunction, it is possible to carve out local completion to avoid delaying global completion.
www.bmalaw.com.br/nova_internet/.../Merger Control 2007.pdf
Rebecca, would the fact that these orders are given by a government agency and not by the court system mean that they are not injunctions? Your answer sounds great but I'm not sure it applies. This is an agency to which people make certain applications, which may be granted, denied, granted provisionally, etc. |
Thanks, Rebecca. I really liked this answer but my project manager at the agency says it's not an injunction. What can I say? This is NOT my field! I really appreciate your time and help. |
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Luis Rey Ballesteros (Luiroi)
: I think you hit the nail on the head. See this reference: http://www.answers.com/topic/injunction
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Thanks Luis
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cmwilliams (X)
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Thanks cmwilliams
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philgoddard
: These are presumably being obtained through the courts. Good answer, by the way - I wouldn't have thought of this.
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Thanks Phil
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worldenglish
: I agree, it sounds like an injunction
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Gracias worldenglish
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AllegroTrans
: Now that we have additional context it is clearly not a Court order
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No, indeed, it is an "administrative injunction". Please see the references posted above.
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orders to do or to refrain thereform
Thanks for your help, AllegroTrans. I wish I could have explained more about the document, but it's confidential. I appreciate your interest in helping me find a solution. |
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However, I can say that the *orden* is being given by a government agency, not by the courts.