se han ido al fiable

English translation: se han ido al diablo

11:09 Nov 24, 2011

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Journalism / journalism

Spanish term or phrase: se han ido al fiable

Hello,

I have come across the following sentence:

"Tanto las novelas tipo Tom Clancy como los cientos de películas de

terroristas que amenazaban a los Estados Unidos se han ido al fiable".

I don't know how to translate into English the expression "se han ido al fiable".
Fiable is trustworthy, but I've never seen this expression in Spanish.

The text is from the exams for "Traductor Interprete Jurado" in Spain.

Thank you in advance,
Miguel Ferrer

Miguel Ferrer KudoZ activity Questions: 6 (none open) Answers: 3 Spain
Local time: 02:21

English translation:se han ido al diablo

Explanation:
Creo que se trata de un error. Debería ser "se han ido al diablo". Saludos

http://hispanoteca.eu/Literatura española/Sobre Literatura/F...

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La traducción: was a miserable failure or failed miserably

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Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.)
Spain
Local time: 02:21

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Summary of answers provided

have gone to hell

Cecilia Gowar

have lost their popular appeal / are not as popular as they used to be

Jenni Lukac (X)

2 +2

se han ido al diablo

Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.)

have lost their credibility

Wendy Streitparth

Discussion entries: 8

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20 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

se han ido al diablo

Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.)
Spain
Local time: 02:21
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 44

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4 hrs confidence:

have lost their popular appeal / are not as popular as they used to be

Explanation:
This is not a literal translation. I am assuming that the word is "diable" rather than "fiable." One can say that a newspaper has "gone to hell" (which is to say that it isn't what it used to be in terms of credibility, popularity, and quality, but individual books and movies are what they are: moments in time that do not experience a gradual decline. They can't be correctly described as "going to hell." Therefore, I'd either say that the genre is going to hell or that it is no longer as popular with the public as it once was (unlike newspapers, Tom Clancy books and adventure films have never had much of a claim to being great literature or filmmaking.) However, as this is a qualification examination for Traductor Interprete Jurado, one has to ask what the correct answer based on the judgement of the examining board would be. The subtleties of this text could very well have escaped the person/people who designed the test and the "correct" answer may be "gone to the devil/gone to hell" even though the resulting sentence is "carente del sentido." Good luck!

Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 02:21
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 56

5 hrs confidence:

have lost their credibility

Explanation:
just in case it wasn't a typo!

Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Local time: 02:21
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

1 hr confidence:

have gone to hell

Explanation:
Another option

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/press_box/20...
Why Newspapers Have Gone to Hell
No, the answer cannot be found in the reductionist explanation by experienced newsman James O'Shea.

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Obviously, for the version we can safely assume is the right one: "se han ido al diablo"...

Cecilia Gowar
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 68

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