partes materiales

English translation: parties

16:38 Sep 26, 2018
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / divorcio/México
Spanish term or phrase: partes materiales
Juicio ordinario familiar. - Divorce judgment from Mexico.

"Sentencia definitiva que: a) declara la disolución del vínculo matrimonial con sus consecuencias jurídicas; b) deja a las *partes materiales* en aptitud de contraer nuevas nupcias, en los términos que señala; c) no hace condena en costas..."

There is a distinction between "partes materiales" and "partes formales":
De este concepto se advierte de inmediato que es posible establecer una neta separación entre el que pide y aquel por quien se pide la actuación de la ley. Como consecuencia de ello, la doctrina admite la distinción entre parte en sentido material directamente vinculada en la relación de derecho sustantivo y parte en sentido formal, en cuanto actúa en el proceso y realiza actos procesales, con prescindencia del contenido u objeto de aquella relación. Es explícito el pensamiento de Carnelutti, al afirmar sobre este problema: " A veces actúa en el proceso la misma parte en sentido material, a veces, por lo contrario, una persona distinta de ella pero que tiene con la misma una relación determinada. Se comprende que esta relación deba ser tal que la haga igualmente apta para tal actividad. En estos casos es conveniente hablar de parte indirecta frente a la parte directa; la noción de la parte indirecta representada, por tanto, una división entre parte en sentido material y parte en sentido procesal. From: https://www.monografias.com/trabajos13/introd/introd.shtml

This page explains the difference in more detail: http://unimexderprocivil.blogspot.com/2010/08/unidad-iii-las...

I can't find any equivalent in English; I suspect English may just use "parties" but that would create problems if I then had to translate "partes formales".
Another source suggests "litigating parties" but this is a non-contentious divorce so I'm not sure that would fit the bill here.
Joshua Parker
Mexico
Local time: 00:29
English translation:parties
Explanation:
Given you are simply translating a (non contentious) divorce decree, I don't see any necessity to get bogged down with the semantics of what seems, to my (English) mind to be an abstract concept.

Any English language divorce decree I have ever seen refers simply to "the parties" or "the petitioner" and "the respondent".

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parties


Explanation:
Given you are simply translating a (non contentious) divorce decree, I don't see any necessity to get bogged down with the semantics of what seems, to my (English) mind to be an abstract concept.

Any English language divorce decree I have ever seen refers simply to "the parties" or "the petitioner" and "the respondent".



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agree  Robert Carter: Perhaps "divorcees" even?//Good to know, Chris.
4 mins
  -> Thanks, but I have never seen "divorcees" used in a court order

agree  philgoddard
6 mins
  -> Thanks
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