Sep 20, 2013 17:53
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Spanish term

dermatosis bullosa

Spanish to English Medical Medical (general)
This term is part of a list of adverse reactions for a medication. The type of document is a clinical monograph. Target country is USA.

"Las reacciones adversas raras incluyen...,dermatosis bullosa y púrpura."
References
bullous dermatosis
ICD-11

Discussion

liz askew Sep 22, 2013:
@Anne
Yes, it is interesting. I don't think it will keep me awake at night though, as both terms seem to have their place:)
Muriel Vasconcellos (X) Sep 21, 2013:
ICD-9, ICD-10, ICD-11 Since later versions of the ICD don't use either 'dermatosis' or 'dermatitis' in the category heading, for this question, I think the best choice is still the equivalent that appears in ICD-9.
Muriel Vasconcellos (X) Sep 21, 2013:
ICD Well, what I posted was from ICD-9. As a matter of fact, ICD-10 only says 'bullous disorders' - no 'dermatoses' or 'dermatitis' at all until lower down in the tree, and the draft of ICD-11 (not yet published) says 'chronic blistering skin disorder'. I will post the links under References below.
Anne Schulz Sep 21, 2013:
ICD That's really interesting, the ICD classifies these disorders primarily as "bullous dermatoses", but in all the pharmaceutical product informations I have translated so far (about 100 SmPCs), I only encountered "bullous dermatitis" (seems to be a potential side effect of most any drug on the market).
Muriel Vasconcellos (X) Sep 21, 2013:
@Liz What I posted was a copy-and-paste direct from the ICD. The category is "dermatOses". Some of the individual listings are "dermatitis". I think what you are seeing are some of the synonyms that the ICD gives. Note in my post that "dermatitis" appears lower down the tree and in some of the synonyms.
liz askew Sep 21, 2013:
Chronic blistering skin disorder
apps.who.int/.../icd11/browse/l.../en#!/...int%2ficd%2fentity%2f2061271...‎
If the ICD-11 Entity has an equivalent ICD-10 code then this is displayed here. ... bullous dermatitis; bullous dermatoses; bullous dermatosis; bullous disorder, ...
liz askew Sep 21, 2013:
Are you 100% sure this is "dermatOsis bullosa", also it would be useful to know the drug here.
I have found "dermatitis bullosa" on page 8 here:
http://www.aemps.gob.es/cima/especialidad.do?metodo=verFicha...
Muriel Vasconcellos (X) Sep 21, 2013:
International Classification of Diseases I always go to the ICD to get the preferred term. These names are standardized for ease of communication. Particularly in the case of a clinical monograph, it would be a mistake to popularize the terminology. Here is the breakdown for the ICD 694 category "Bullous dermatoses" (synonyms listed under the main numbered heading):
694 Bullous dermatoses
694.0 Dermatitis herpetiformis
Dermatosis herpetiformis, Duhring's disease, hydroa herpetiformis Excludes: herpes gestationis (646.8), dermatitis herpetiformis: juvenile (694.2), senile (694.5)
694.1 Subcorneal pustular dermatosis
Sneddon-Wilkinson disease or syndrome
694.2 Juvenile dermatitis herpetiformis
Juvenile pemphigoid
694.3 Impetigo herpetiformis
694.4 Pemphigus
Pemphigus: NOS erythematosus foliaceus malignant vegetans vulgaris Excludes: Pemphigus neonatorum (684)
694.5 Pemphigoid
Benign pemphigus NOS bullous pemphigoid, herpes circinatus bullosus, senile dermatitis herpetiformis
694.6 Benign mucous membrane pemphigoid
Cicatricial pemphigoid, mucosynechial atrophic bullous dermatitis
694.8 Other specified bullous dermatoses Excludes: herpes gestationis (646.8)
694.9 Unspecified bullous dermatoses
Ellen Kraus Sep 20, 2013:
the link I posted under reference entry is not what I wanted to send. The more general one is the following: www.patient.co.uk/.../Bullous-Dermatoses-(...‎von Laurence KnottOur resources on Bullous Dermatoses (Blisters and Bullae). This article ... It is derived from the Greek word pemphix meaning bubble or blister. A number of

Proposed translations

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bullous dermatosis

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_IgA_bullous_dermatosis‎
Peer comment(s):

agree Ellen Kraus
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Thank you, Ellen.
agree Charles Davis
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Thank you, Charles.
agree Muriel Vasconcellos (X) : That's the title in the International Classification of Diseases
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Thank you, Muriel.
agree liz askew
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Thank you, Liz.
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Dermatitis (bullosa)

Images of dermatosis bullosa
bing.com/images
.Epidermolysis bullosa dystrophica (dermolytic bullous dermatosis).
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1645882
Vitamin E treatment of dermolytic bullous dermatosis: a controlled study. Arch Dermatol. 1973 Aug; 108(2):254-6. [Arch Dermatol. 1973] Letter: Vitamin E treatment of ...


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Note added at 7 mins (2013-09-20 18:01:04 GMT)
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I would avoid the official terms as they are not well known outside the medical profession, and say: " unusual adverse reactions include severe blistering of the epidermis"; pictures are available if you google it.
Peer comment(s):

disagree liz askew : medical translators should use the ICD definitions and avoid "interpretation" of medical terms
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Bullous pemphigoid

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Peer comment(s):

neutral Muriel Vasconcellos (X) : In the ICD, pemphigoid is 694.5 under the more general heading 694 Bullous dermatoses. See the full listing for the category that I posted in the discussion above.
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bullous dermatitis

AFAIK dermatitis is more commonly used than dermatosis
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Reference comments

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Reference:

bullous dermatosis

Linear IgA bullous dermatosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/.../Linear_IgA_bullous_dermatosis‎
Linear IgA bullous dermatosis (also known as "Linear IgA dermatosis") is frequently associated with medication exposure, especially vancomycin, with men and
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Reference:

ICD-11

The new proposed category is "Chronic blistering skin disorder" - no numbers assigned as yet. This is where Liz saw both 'bullous dermatosis' and 'bullous dermatitis' listed as synonyms, among others.

Note that ICD-11 is still an unapproved draft.

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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2013-09-21 20:47:16 GMT)
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Here's the link for ICD-10, "Bullous Disorders":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICD-10_Chapter_XII:_Diseases_of...
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