la orden del Toisón de Oro

English translation: Order of the Golden Fleece

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Spanish term or phrase:Orden del Toisón de Oro
English translation:Order of the Golden Fleece
Entered by: Brigitte Gendebien

12:04 Sep 1, 2000
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
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Spanish term or phrase: la orden del Toisón de Oro
Charles V (Holy Roman Emperor) belonged to this order. I thought I was well up on these "illuminati" type secret sects... But this one rings no bells. Is it popularly known as something else?
Berni Armstrong
Spain
Local time: 01:48
Order of the Golden Fleece
Explanation:
See :
http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/0/0,5716,37980 1 3...
http://www.chez.com/pounze/gfo/
http://www.mun.ca/rels/hrollmann/relsoc/texts/vaughan/conten...

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Brigitte Gendebien
Belgium
Local time: 01:48
Grading comment
Wonderful Back up - Thanks. Strangely enough I was blindly convinced Toisón was a place and so didn't even look it up in my dictionary :-( It came in a list of references to The Peace of This Town and the treaty of that Town... Basic Translator's error Number 4 "Never assume... check :-)

The Order of the Golden Fleece are definitley linked in with "illuminati" conspiracy theories. What a lad old Carlos Quinto was, eh?
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Summary of answers provided
naOrder of the Golden Fleece
Brigitte Gendebien
naOrder of the Toison d'Or
Baruch Avidar
naBerni, probablemente tu la conozca como la conozco yo...
Maria
naOrder of the Golden Fleece as a trans label
Lia Fail (X)


  

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38 mins
Order of the Golden Fleece


Explanation:
See :
http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/0/0,5716,37980 1 3...
http://www.chez.com/pounze/gfo/
http://www.mun.ca/rels/hrollmann/relsoc/texts/vaughan/conten...




    Reference: http://www.chivalricorders.org/orders/spanish/spangdfl.htm
    Reference: http://www.antiquesatoz.com/sgfleece/
Brigitte Gendebien
Belgium
Local time: 01:48
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in pair: 117
Grading comment
Wonderful Back up - Thanks. Strangely enough I was blindly convinced Toisón was a place and so didn't even look it up in my dictionary :-( It came in a list of references to The Peace of This Town and the treaty of that Town... Basic Translator's error Number 4 "Never assume... check :-)

The Order of the Golden Fleece are definitley linked in with "illuminati" conspiracy theories. What a lad old Carlos Quinto was, eh?

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
Yolanda Broad

Maria

Megdalina
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54 mins
Order of the Toison d'Or


Explanation:
The name of the order doesn't translate
The emblem of the order is a golden sheep and "toison" means indeed "fleece" or "unskinned sheepskin".

Good luck!

Baruch Avidar
Israel
Local time: 02:48
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in pair: 92

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
Yolanda Broad
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1 hr
Berni, probablemente tu la conozca como la conozco yo...


Explanation:
El termino mas conocido para mi es "el vellón de oro" en lugar de Toison.... but the first answer is correct, it is Order of the Golden Fleece

Happy translating! ;o)

Maria
Local time: 18:48
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in pair: 920
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3 hrs
Order of the Golden Fleece as a trans label


Explanation:
" Order of knights founded by Philip the Good, Duke of Burgundy (1429), the head of which is the King of Spain." Therefore needs a translation label - suggest the name in Spanish in italics and a translation in English in parentheses, i.e. the Order of the Golden Fleece. Note that the origin of the name may be in Greek mythology.

Lia Fail (X)
Spain
Local time: 01:48
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 1368
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