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fiel contraste... platero puesto

English translation: hallmarker

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Spanish term or phrase:fiel contraste
English translation:hallmarker
Entered by: xxxJon Zuber
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06:11 Sep 8, 2000
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Art/Literary
Spanish term or phrase: fiel contraste... platero puesto
Description of a shrine.

"No están acuñadas las marcas del fiel contraste ni del platero puesto que en el área catalano-aragonesa, hasta avanzado el siglo XVI, sólo fue habitual acuñar la marca de la localidad."

Some kind of marks which weren't minted as this was not the done thing just then and just there :-)

I'm brain dead. Can anyone suggest a translation for the first half of this sentence please.
Berni Armstrong
Local time: 16:47
It/they is/are not stamped with the mark of the hallmarker nor that of the silversmith ...
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xxxJon Zuber
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Wonderful explanation Jon and thanks to the others. We share more than just vocabulary using this system, ¿eh? You really do learn something everyday on ProZ.com ;-)

Thanks
Berni
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naIt/they is/are not stamped with the mark of the hallmarker nor that of the silversmith ...xxxJon Zuber
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1 hr
see below


Explanation:
"Platero" and "puesto" don't go together, it's "silversmith, as/because/since ..." (puesto que).

xxxJon Zuber
PRO pts in pair: 172

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2 hrs
It/they is/are not stamped with the mark of the hallmarker nor that of the silversmith ...


Explanation:
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xxxJon Zuber
PRO pts in pair: 172
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Wonderful explanation Jon and thanks to the others. We share more than just vocabulary using this system, ¿eh? You really do learn something everyday on ProZ.com ;-)

Thanks
Berni

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2 hrs
NOTE


Explanation:
I have NO idea of "contraste", but just think, in those days two people were the most important characters in religious art: the donor and the maker.

In fact, before the 15th century in Spain (particularly in Catalonia) the sculptors were usually Sephardic Jews... too unclean to sign, I guess. (This is only in Spain, further North they weren't allowed to touch religious art by the guilds, but religious artists in Spain had a low enough station before the Baroque period).


    Gabrielle Sed-Rajna, L'art juif
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3 hrs
add'l info


Explanation:
"Fiel, fiel contraste: Cofrade responsable de la ley y calidad del trabajo en las piezas dentro del gremio de los plateros. Hasta el s. XVIII marcaba las piezas con el punzón del fiel contraste, que llevaba su nombre y era distinto del que utilizaba como platero. En algunas ciudades era obligatorio que este punzón llevase además las dos últimas cifras del año."
"Hallmark: The official mark of the Goldsmith's Company, stamped on gold and silver articles at Goldsmith's Hall in London to attest their purity; hence, any mark similarly used...."
"Hallmark v.t. To stamp with a hallmark. —hallmarker"

xxxJon Zuber
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