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Something forgotten - political manoeuverings

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19:00 Oct 14, 2000
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary
Spanish term or phrase: Something forgotten - political manoeuverings
El ministro MM fue /desautorizado/ por el gobierno, y resultó /relegado frente a/ AA, ministro de Administraciones Públicas, quien fue a partir del 17 de febrero /el interlocutor del/Consejero de Asuntos Sociales de la Junta de Andalucía. La /desautorización/ se amplió desde el alcalde de XX (quien se negaba a hablar con MM), pasando por varios miembros del gobierno (entre ellos el portavoz RR), hasta alcanzar al propio presidente del gobierno, que se alineaba así con la postura de JJ.

The problem is that it seems that one person is the new Minister for Labour, at the same time Minister for Public Administration, and even has a job (interlocutor) in the Govt. of Andalusia???!!!!

Could anyone put this into simple English / explain the idea for me to produce simple English?
It refers to the political repercussions of recent racist disturbances in Spain. The // indicate words implying particular difficulty. I feel also that 'desautorización' will possibly be translated in more than one way (disown, among them)
xxxLia Fail
Spain
Local time: 11:21
English translation:See below
Explanation:
Well, the minister MM seems to have fallen out of favor, and the one called AA (who is Minister of Public Administration) has taken his place as the person that the Counsellor for Social Work of the Andalucian Government (whose name we don't have) should talk to (I guess in a treaty, talks for something...). This falling out started with the major of XX (who refused to talk to MM), continued with several members of the Government (among them its spokesperson RR), up to the president of the Government himself, who in this way followed JJ's position.

More or less it means that. I do not see the MInister of Labour anywhere, though.

Good luck,
Agua
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Agua
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Thanks, and sorry but I made an error and omitted to mention that MM was the Minister of Labour. Thanks also to others, whose answers were also useful.
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nadesautorizaciónErik Vorbeck
naSee below
Agua
naMM was disavowed by the government, and then pushed aside, to the advantage of
Yolanda Broad


  

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1 hr
MM was disavowed by the government, and then pushed aside, to the advantage of


Explanation:
I'm having trouble figuring out which of the positions these illustrious folk occupy is the Minister of Labour. Is *Administración pública* the one you have in mind?

In any case, I don't think that AA occupies any more than two positions, one national and one at the level of the autonomous government, a fairly standard arrangement. It may even mean that he represents the *point of view* of that Councillor, in the *national* government.

MM was disavowed by the government, and then pushed aside, to the advantage of AA, Minister of Public Administration, who became, as of February 17, the spokesman/mouthpiece for the Councillor for Social Issues of the Autonomous Government of Andalusia. His position was further undermined, starting with the mayor of XX (who refused to speak with MM), and followed by various members of the government (including RR's spokesman), all the way to the Prime Minister, who aligned himself with JJ's position.


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Yolanda Broad
United States
Local time: 05:21
Native speaker of: English
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See below


Explanation:
Well, the minister MM seems to have fallen out of favor, and the one called AA (who is Minister of Public Administration) has taken his place as the person that the Counsellor for Social Work of the Andalucian Government (whose name we don't have) should talk to (I guess in a treaty, talks for something...). This falling out started with the major of XX (who refused to talk to MM), continued with several members of the Government (among them its spokesperson RR), up to the president of the Government himself, who in this way followed JJ's position.

More or less it means that. I do not see the MInister of Labour anywhere, though.

Good luck,
Agua


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Agua
Spain
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PRO pts in pair: 40
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Thanks, and sorry but I made an error and omitted to mention that MM was the Minister of Labour. Thanks also to others, whose answers were also useful.
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2 hrs
desautorización


Explanation:
ybroad has the first half of the text right. The second half says:
"This disavowal grew to include the Mayor of xx, went throuhg several government members etc. and reached even the President etc."
As for the Minister of Labour, he does not appear in the Spanish Text. Minister of Labour is Ministro del Trabajo

Erik Vorbeck
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