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English translation: willing and understanding [?]

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05:13 Jul 2, 2001
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary
Spanish term or phrase: intelección
"La elección y la intelección presuponen una falta de certeza, una voluntaria suspension del credito".

He appears to be punning on intelect.. or is he... I have already guessed wrong about this guy's ability to pun once today.
Berni Armstrong
Local time: 07:53
English translation:willing and understanding [?]
Explanation:
Eleccion is what the will does; inteleccion is what the intellect does.

Author is drawn by the pun; but in english "election and intellection" evokes politics.

No easy answer. You may want to let your client know that the author seems to be in love with the sound of his own voice; at the expense of any clear meaning or anything worthwhile to say.
PB
Selected response from:

Phillip Berryman
Local time: 01:53
Grading comment
This is the best within my spirited attempt to produce a readable English text out of his intellectual masturbation.
John may be right about election and intellection - but Choice and intellection lose that.

Thanks to you all,

Berni
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Summary of answers provided
na +2willing and understanding [?]Phillip Berryman
na +1intellectionFuad Yahya
naintellectionxxxJon Zuber
naelection and intelectionTelesforo Fernandez
naintellectionLeonel Requena
naprocessing information/knowledge...
flaviofbg
na -1ratiocinationHeathcliff


  

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29 mins
election and intelection


Explanation:
I suppose so.

Telesforo Fernandez
Local time: 12:23
PRO pts in pair: 262
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50 mins
processing information/knowledge...


Explanation:
More or less...

Flavio

flaviofbg
Spain
Local time: 07:53
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in pair: 72
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54 mins
intellection


Explanation:
SpiritWeb: Ennead V, Tractate VI: That the principle transcending bein...
Written by Plotinus, 250 AD There is a principle having intellection of the external and another having self-intellection and thus further removed from duality.





    Reference: http://www.spiritweb.org/Plotinus/part-42.html
Leonel Requena
Argentina
Local time: 03:53
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1 hr peer agreement (net): +2
willing and understanding [?]


Explanation:
Eleccion is what the will does; inteleccion is what the intellect does.

Author is drawn by the pun; but in english "election and intellection" evokes politics.

No easy answer. You may want to let your client know that the author seems to be in love with the sound of his own voice; at the expense of any clear meaning or anything worthwhile to say.
PB

Phillip Berryman
Local time: 01:53
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 147
Grading comment
This is the best within my spirited attempt to produce a readable English text out of his intellectual masturbation.
John may be right about election and intellection - but Choice and intellection lose that.

Thanks to you all,

Berni

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Heathcliff: Bravo, Phil! Care for a (well-deserved) saucer of milk with that last remark??? :)
1 hr

agree  Telesforo Fernandez: quite acceptable
3 hrs
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2 hrs peer agreement (net): -1
ratiocination


Explanation:
Gotta be the mot juste for this sentence! (Never use a simple word where a bombastic one will do, eh?)

As for the rest of the silly thing, I'll eschew punnery and simply suggest "...choice and ratiocination...," but allow the author his erudite little joke with "voluntary suspension of belief."


-- HC, knowing better but still having trouble believing anyone could actually have gotten this sort of highfalutin' drivel published!



Heathcliff
United States
Local time: 22:53
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 843

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Telesforo Fernandez: sounds so tempting, but how naer it is from the real?
1 hr
  -> Glad to explain, if you could clarify your question ("near to the real"?)
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9 hrs
intellection


Explanation:
"1. The action or process of understanding; the exercise or activity of the intellect; spec. simple apprehension, as distinct from imagination.
b. applied spec. to the kind of immediate knowledge or intelligence ascribed to divine or angelic beings: cf. INTUITION. Obs.
c. (with pl.) A particular act of understanding; sometimes, the permanent mental result of such an act; a conception, notion, idea.
d. The faculty of understanding: intellect.
e. That which is obtained by the exercise of the intellect; understanding, information. Obs.
2. Meaning, intention, purpose, 'mind'.
3. Gram. and Rhet. The figure SYNECDOCHE."
-OED

No, it's not a common word, but otherwise you lose the rhyme.

xxxJon Zuber
PRO pts in pair: 172
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10 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
intellection


Explanation:
"Intellection" is a perfectly legitimate English word, defined by the American Heritage Dictionary as “the act or process of using the intellect; thinking or reasoning.” It is not very commonly used except by epistemologists and students of scholastic philosophy.

Phillip Berryman is correct in his contrast of election (choosing, act of the will) versus intellection (act of the intellect). The writer, however, does not seem to be contrasting the two concepts, but rather lumping them together. Of course, both are manifestations of the higher (rational) faculties, so the statement is really about the exercise of reason, whether in a speculative mode or a volitional mode.

I am not sure where the writer is headed with his statement. I hope that in the remainder of his piece he gets to explain why he thinks that the will and the intellect presuppose a lack of certitude, a voluntary suspension of belief.

The juxtaposition of election and intellection involves consonance, but I don’t see any pun anywhere.

A note on Spanish spelling: The spelling I am familiar with has an accented O in both words. Am I right?

Fuad



    American Heritage Dictionary
Fuad Yahya
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 193

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Leonel Requena: Very nice
1 hr
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