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salir humo blanco

22:13 Apr 5, 2004
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Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Journalism
Spanish term or phrase: salir humo blanco
A newspaper article from Chile begins: "Salió humo blanco." (The article is regarding an out-of-court settlement that was finally reached.) Any help with this idiomatic expression would be greatly appreciated!
Lisa Carter (X)
Local time: 05:53


Summary of answers provided
5 +4white smoke
Miguel Llorens
5 +4Settlement Amenable to Both Sides
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
4 +1come to consensus
Siddhartha Pocaterra
4flags (went) up/down
neilmac
4smoke signals (in the sky/in the courtroom)
lincasanova


Discussion entries: 1





  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
white smoke


Explanation:
Meaning an agreement was reached. It refers to the custom of white smoke emerging from Saint Peters when a new Pope is elected (after all the cardinals have agreed on one candidate).

****White Smoke over the Sistine**** | Catholic-Pages.com - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... is the third day of the conclave that is trying to decide on a new Pope. ... every so
often panic is raised when someone imagines that he sees white smoke from the ...
www.catholic-pages.com/pope/whitesmoke.asp - 15k - En caché - Páginas similares

'98 Peugeot List Archive: 505 SW ''87 : white smoke (and no Pope ... - [ Traduzca esta página ]
505 SW ''87 : white smoke (and no Pope election...). ... Next in thread:
Ray: "Re: 505 SW ''87 : white smoke (and no Pope election...)".
www.peugeotclub.org/peugeot/archive/98_11/0179.html - 3k - En caché - Páginas similares

'98 Peugeot List Archive: Re: 505 SW ''87 : white smoke (and no ... - [ Traduzca esta página ]
Re: 505 SW ''87 : white smoke (and no Pope election...). ... Maybe in reply to:
Gordon Brown: "505 SW ''87 : white smoke (and no Pope election...)".
www.peugeotclub.org/peugeot/archive/98_11/0232.html - 4k - En caché - Páginas similares
[ Más resultados de www.peugeotclub.org ]

White Smoke, Black Fire! (episodes.htm) - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... White Smoke, Black Fire ... Rome from Fasif as Niki's true profession is revealed SIXTH
CHAPTER Episode One - Riage Benziger tends to a dehydrated Pope as Cardinal ...
www.dailycatholic.org/episodes.htm - 28k - En caché - Páginas similares

White Smoke, Black Fire! (novel24.htm) - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... There was no doubt the real pope was still alive, but for how long? ... White Smoke,
Black Fire!" is an original work, registered with the Writers' Guild and all ...
www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2002Jan/novel24.htm - 19k - En caché - Páginas similares
[ Más resultados de www.dailycatholic.org ]

Amazon.com: Books: White Smoke : A Novel of Papal Election - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... sacred cows milked for all they're worth by Andrew M. Greeley in White Smoke. Greeley's
starting point--the openness and tolerance espouse by Pope John XXIII ...
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/ detail/-/0812590554?v=glance - 78k - En caché - Páginas similares

Will Cardinal Arinze succeed Pope John Paul II? By Pamela ... - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... White Smoke for a Black Pope? Whether or not Cardinal Arinze is elected to succeed
John Paul II, his moment in the spotlight is serving as a reality check. ...
www.beliefnet.com/story/48/story_4829_1.html - 68k - En caché - Páginas similares

Church of the Epiphany: The Catholic Difference #35 - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... the conclave room. Black smoke signifies an unsuccessful vote; white
smoke signifies a new pope has been chosen. The new pope generally ...
www.epiphanychurch.org/question/question35.htm - 8k - En caché - Páginas similares

Photographs of Pope - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... Ballots at the Conclave of 1998. Actual photo of the White Smoke signaling
the election of Pope Pius XIII to the Chair of St. Peter. ...
www.truecatholic.org/pope/pix-ppsmoke.htm - 4k - En caché - Páginas similares

White Smoke : A Novel of Papal Election - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... Blackie" Ryan and Sean Cardinal Cronin travel to Rome to participate in the election
of a new Pope. ... White Smoke : A Novel of Papal Election > Customer Review #2 ...
www.history-europe.com/ White_Smoke__A_Novel_of_Papal_Election_0812590554.html - 14k - En caché - Páginas similares



Miguel Llorens
Local time: 11:53
Native speaker of: Spanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  SMLS
1 min
agree  colemh: exactamente
3 mins
agree  neilmac: Yes, something short and snappy like this for the headline :)
4 mins
neutral  Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X): yes but you wouldn't use that title in English on it's own; its meaningless, IMO...
5 mins
  -> I think the asker wanted an explanation of the idiomatic expression, Jane. I am sure she is more than capable of providing her own version of the phrase. Saludos.
agree  Duckster
7 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
come to consensus


Explanation:
this is the usual expresion when electing the pope. You see white smoke going out the chimeny is the signal they all came to an agreement or consencus...
you can change the word consensus

Siddhartha Pocaterra
Local time: 04:53
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  María Isabel Estévez (maisa)
2 days 5 hrs
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
Settlement Amenable to Both Sides


Explanation:
YOu can substitute other things for SIDEs

like the names of the parties..

Settlement Amenable to IBM and Microsoft OR whatever





When the Pope is chosen, white smoke issues forth from the Vatican....after all the cardinals' discuss who the next Pope should be...

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Note added at 15 hrs 27 mins (2004-04-06 13:41:10 GMT)
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Alternative:

PARTIES SETTLE IN FINAL OUTCOME

Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  neilmac: hmm... less tabloid, wholly correct - although very formal ;)
14 mins
  -> you can't just say white smoke in English for heaven's sake!
agree  Laura Hastings-Brownstein
7 hrs
agree  Pablo Grosschmid: Settlement Finally Reached (was not easy)
8 hrs
  -> yes finally reached is fine
agree  María Isabel Estévez (maisa)
2 days 7 hrs
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
flags (went) up/down


Explanation:
Creo que la metáfora se refiere a la "fumata" o humareda tradicional en el Vaticano al fallecer un Papa... significando un punto de inflexión...

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Note added at 15 hrs 55 mins (2004-04-06 14:09:27 GMT)
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A simple \"Agreement Reached\" would probably be the best headline, especially for a non-Catholic target readership...

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Note added at 15 hrs 57 mins (2004-04-06 14:10:38 GMT)
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or similar

neilmac
Spain
Local time: 11:53
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  María Isabel Estévez (maisa): el humo blanco no se produce en el Vaticano cuando fallece un Papa, sino cuando se logra concenso en la elección del nuevo Papa; cada vez que no hay consenso o mayoría, el humo es negro.
2 days 7 hrs
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21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
smoke signals (in the sky/in the courtroom)


Explanation:
hth

lincasanova
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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