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a título oneroso

English translation: for a consideration

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22:33 Mar 5, 2008
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Law: Contract(s) / Contract clauses
Spanish term or phrase: a título oneroso
"Se entiendo por uso comercial del certificado, cualquier actuación mediante la cual el SOLICITANTE ofrece a terceras partes ajenas al presente contrato, **a título oneroso** o gratuito, servicios que requieren el uso del certificado contratado."
neilmac
Spain
Local time: 02:26
English translation:for a consideration
Explanation:
this is the equivalent:)

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Publishers' agreements: Guide.Ms. document signed: Hoyle's agreement with Thomas Osborne, who has purchased Francis Cogan's rights in Hoyle's publications, for a consideration of 25 ...
oasis.lib.harvard.edu/oasis/deliver/~hou01681 - 16k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

A Guide to the European VAT Directives - Google Books Resultby B J M Terra, B. Terra/J. Kajus, Julie Kajus - 2007
namely Section 10(3) of the Value-Added Tax Act 1983, which provides that: 'If the supply is not for a consideration or is for a consideration not ...
books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=9087220057...

European Company and Financial Law: Texts and Leading Cases - Google Books Resultby Klaus J. Hopt, Eddy Wymeersch - 2004 - Law - 1440 pages
Shares issued for a consideration must be paid up at the time the company ... However, where shares are issued for a consideration other than in cash at the ...
books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=0199255598...

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Monica Colangelo
Argentina
Local time: 22:26
Grading comment
This will do nicely. Sorry if my idle comments deserve the ticking off (not to say insults) it garnered from "real, Professional Translator" (dig the capitals) I simply find much legalese stilted, odd and unsufferably recondite. I am not alone in this and believe in Keeping It Simple, that's all. Thanks again for your help :)
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Summary of answers provided
4 +8for valuable consideration / involving or requiring consideration
Claudia Luque Bedregal
5 +3for a consideration
Monica Colangelo
5 +1for value / for valuable consideration
Maria Kisic
5 +1for a consideration [some notes by way of illustration]
Nelida Kreer
4CHARGEABLE OR BURDENSOME
morachica


Discussion entries: 6





  

Answers


5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +8
for valuable consideration / involving or requiring consideration


Explanation:
algunas opciones que puedes encontrar también el Dicc. de Términos Jurídicos Alcaraz Varó

suerte!

Claudia Luque Bedregal
Italy
Local time: 02:26
Works in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 55
Notes to answerer
Asker: En mi copia, que tengo delante, solo pone "oneroso: onerous, heavy", que no funciona aqui.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  silviantonia
0 min
  -> muchas gracias silviantonia, saludos :)

agree  Dunkel
16 mins
  -> thanks Dunkel

agree  Virginia Agustini
17 mins
  -> thanks Virginia

agree  Victoria Frazier
28 mins
  -> muchas gracias Victoria

agree  MikeGarcia: Perfectísimo, Clau.- En el AVH Legal del 2003, está en las págs.515/516.-
10 hrs
  -> muchas gracias Miguel, y gracias por la confirmación de que el término está incluido en otras ediciones del dicc. Además, es así como siempre he visto que se usa el término. Un abrazo y buen finde :)

agree  María T. Vargas
12 hrs
  -> muchas gracias Pampi por tu agree. Un beso y buen fin de semana :)

agree  AllegroTrans
15 hrs
  -> muchas gracias AllegroTrans

agree  Laura Daly
2978 days
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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
for value / for valuable consideration


Explanation:
...

Maria Kisic
Local time: 20:26
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 64

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  MikeGarcia: Also right, lost by one minute!!!
10 hrs
  -> Thank you, Miguel! A few seconds indeed :)
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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
for a consideration


Explanation:
this is the equivalent:)

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 24 mins (2008-03-05 22:57:57 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Publishers' agreements: Guide.Ms. document signed: Hoyle's agreement with Thomas Osborne, who has purchased Francis Cogan's rights in Hoyle's publications, for a consideration of 25 ...
oasis.lib.harvard.edu/oasis/deliver/~hou01681 - 16k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

A Guide to the European VAT Directives - Google Books Resultby B J M Terra, B. Terra/J. Kajus, Julie Kajus - 2007
namely Section 10(3) of the Value-Added Tax Act 1983, which provides that: 'If the supply is not for a consideration or is for a consideration not ...
books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=9087220057...

European Company and Financial Law: Texts and Leading Cases - Google Books Resultby Klaus J. Hopt, Eddy Wymeersch - 2004 - Law - 1440 pages
Shares issued for a consideration must be paid up at the time the company ... However, where shares are issued for a consideration other than in cash at the ...
books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=0199255598...



Monica Colangelo
Argentina
Local time: 22:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
This will do nicely. Sorry if my idle comments deserve the ticking off (not to say insults) it garnered from "real, Professional Translator" (dig the capitals) I simply find much legalese stilted, odd and unsufferably recondite. I am not alone in this and believe in Keeping It Simple, that's all. Thanks again for your help :)
Notes to answerer
Asker: Que manera mas rara de ponerlo...


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andy Watkinson: Qué atrevido el desconocimiento, ¿verdad, Mónica.......? // To Neil, if the dictionary you're using only offers you "oneroso: onerous, heavy" (sic), you urgently need a new one....plus a couple more decades translating contracts, perhaps.
3 hrs
  -> Hi Andy, thanks. Long time, no see:)

agree  mar52: Así me lo enseñaron a mí.
3 hrs
  -> Gracias, mar. Parece que pasamos por los mismos claustros.

agree  Nelida Kreer: Exactisimo. Voy a poner en una pseudo-contestación mis notas para apoyar tu respuesta.
6 hrs
  -> Gracias, Niki.
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
for a consideration [some notes by way of illustration]


Explanation:
This is in support of trixie's answer. [extracted from my Univ. glossary].

Consideration BLACK’S LAW DICTIONARY 1. Something (such as an act, a forbearance, or a return promise) bargained for and received by a promisor from a promisee, that which motivates a person to do something, esp. to engage in a legal act. ● Consideration, or a substitute such as a promissory estoppel, is necessary for an agreement to be enforceable.

2. Loosely, valuable consideration; consideration that is adequate to support the bargained-for exchange between the parties <his agreement to pay the offering price was good consideration for the sale>.

3. Parliamentary law. The process by which a deliverative assembly disposes of a motion; DELIBERATION.

4. Hist. A court’s judgment. ─ Also termed (in Roman law) consideratio.

ALCARAZ VARÓ 1. GRAL. consideración, deliberación, estudio.

2. MERC. causa contractual, contrapartida de un contrato, prestación, remuneración. <In a contract of sale of goods the consideration is a money consideration, called price>.
Un contrato no es válido si carece de causa o contrapartida; quien no ofrezca causa o contrapartida (consideration) en un contrato no puede exigir el cumplimiento de la promesa de la otra parte.
El facio ut des del Derecho romano es una fórmula de prestación o consideration.
3. CONSIDERATIONS. PROC. exposición de motivos en un juicio.

Los contratos pueden ser [entre otras varias clasificaciones o criterios de clasificación posibles] onerosos o gratuitos. Los onerosos requieren de una contraprestación [que es la "consideration"].

Definiciones del Código Civil uruguayo:

1249. El contrato se llama gratuito, cuando sólo tiene por objeto la utilidad de una de las dos partes, sufriendo la otra el gravamen; y oneroso, cuando tiene por objeto la utilidad de ambos contratantes gravándose cada uno a beneficio del otro.

Todos los contratos bilaterales entran en la clase de los onerosos; pero los contratos unilaterales no siempre son gratuitos.

I hope to have shed some light on the question. I repeat this is not to be taken as an answer, this is just by way of contribution to the discussion on this issue.



Nelida Kreer
Uruguay
Local time: 22:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 297

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  MikeGarcia: Faaa!!! Cuanta cencia!!! Feliz Día de la Mujer anticipado para ti y que a Popito no se le olvide dedicarte un guau, dos arf y un lamidito.../// GRANDE, MA!!!!!
3 hrs
  -> Y...una es así, femenina internacional y brillante [solíamos decir en la oficina en mis días de juventud.....]. Gracias, dulce!!!! Hoy FINALLY firmé boleto de reserva x apto......quedé de lengua afuera.
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21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
CHARGEABLE OR BURDENSOME


Explanation:
both are synonyms for "PAID FOR"

morachica
Local time: 22:26
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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