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08:35 Oct 18, 2000
Spanish to English translations [Non-PRO]
Spanish term or phrase: idas y venidas
idas y vueltas, marchas y contramarchas

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nacoming and going, toing and froingxxxLia Fail
nacomings and goings, to-ings and fro-ingsxxxJon Zuber
nacomings and goings
Elinor Thomas
nacomings and goings, marches and counter-marchesMary Wilburn



22 mins
comings and goings, marches and counter-marches

"[I]das y venidas" and "idas y vueltas" both translate idiomatically into "comings and goings," a common phrase in English suggesting busy movement. "[M]archas y contramarchas" also suggests busy activity but seems more political, as in the case of demonstrations for and against someone or something. Coupled as they appear here, however, the phrases seem benign and complementary if not redundant.

Mary Wilburn
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Local time: 06:06
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 40

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Yolanda Broad
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55 mins
comings and goings

This term in Spanish means that a person, organization or whatever, is not sure about a decision they have to take.
For example, you have sold them a training course and need to organize the agenda for its delivery. Customer fixes first X date. Two weeks later (one week before delivery) the come with a new date, and so on...
This is exactly what "idas y venidas" means.

Hope this helps! :)

Elinor Thomas
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3 hrs
comings and goings, to-ings and fro-ings

I didn't make the second element up, but it's a bit old-fashioned. Hope you like the way it rhymes.

xxxJon Zuber
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4 hrs
coming and going, toing and froing

The standard, functional translation of the above. (construction based on verbalisation of come/go and to/fro; 'fro' ---> to quote Chambers' "from Scots English, 'frae', only used in 'to and fro'/'toing and froing')

'With all the coming and going, toing and froing, I just couldn't get any work done'.

Note that the first is singular, especially if both go together. If used in a separate part of the text it can be plural.

xxxLia Fail
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