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13:52 Apr 14, 2000
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering
Spanish term or phrase: Obra en Gris, Dirección Facultativa
I am translating a construction contract written in Spain for development, infrastructure, and finishing of concrete dwellings.
Can someone help with defs and trans of:

obra en gris
dirección facultativa

Thanks very much,
Harold
Harold Vadney
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Summary of answers provided
naplaster work, professional managementAlvin Adams, Jr
na(addendum to previous posting)Heathcliff
na= see discussion below =Heathcliff
naWorks in Process = Obra en gris
Alexandro Padres Jimenez
naobra gris: building under construction, Optional Management
Luz Bordenkircher


  

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48 mins
obra gris: building under construction, Optional Management


Explanation:
In Colombia when you refer to "obra gris" it means that the building structure (concrete structure) has been completed but it is lacking elements such as doors, windows, paint, etc.

I hope this can help you.

Luz Bordenkircher
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49 mins
Works in Process = Obra en gris


Explanation:
which means that the structure is there and plaster is being applied to the walls. An architect has informed me that the term isn't common in the US.

Dirección Facultativa would be the Work Manager or person empowered to oversee and direct the works.

Best of luck!

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= see discussion below =


Explanation:
"Facultativa" = "optional," but "direccion" is less obvious. Without more context, it could mean guidance or management (as in the assigment of a foreman or supervisor); alternatively, it could refer to the location, order, or direction (or even a physical address) at or in which work is to be performed. -- Although raw, undyed concrete work is certainly gray, there were no clues to "obra gris" in any of the six Spanish and/or English construction reference sources on my bookshelves. However, the term does appear in several websites (cites below), referring to structures that have not yet been "terminada" (finished) but whose walls, floors, external electrical and plumbing connections, etc. are in place. Hope this points you in the right, um, direccion... -- HC


    members.tripod.com.co/construalpes/Ventas/htm [ and] www.nacion.co.cr/ln_ee/1998/abril/13/pais8.htm
    Reference: http://www.megacentrord.com/condiciones/condiciones.htm
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1 hr
(addendum to previous posting)


Explanation:
"Manager with discretionary authority" might also work for "Direccion faciltativa." -- HC

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1 hr
plaster work, professional management


Explanation:
obra gris or obra en gris is the plaster base coat for walls - See URL below.
direccion facultativa = professional staff or management - see Larousse Gran Diccionario



    Reference: http://www.yesoslaroca.com/construccion/construccion.html#ob...
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