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Dağ kemeri

English translation: valley in between the high and rough mountain peaks

15:42 Nov 29, 2008
Turkish to English translations [Non-PRO]
Art/Literary - History / Ancient History
Turkish term or phrase: Dağ kemeri
Greetings,

“Dağ kemeri” is given as one of the possible meanings of “ergene” as in “Ergenekon” in a version of “Ergenekon Destanı”. The other meanings, incidentally, are given as “maden yeri” and “yeni el değmemiş yer”.

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Simon
SeiTT
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:57
English translation:valley in between the high and rough mountain peaks
Explanation:
dağ kemeri is used to describe the valleys laid at the high mountains between the rough peaks of the mountain and this histrocial story
name ergenekon was given to such a valley because it was virgin before them and at such a hidden place that would be hard to find again (i trust they were right because still the people are searching where it was??!!!)

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semen
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5valley in between the high and rough mountain peaks
semen
5Range of high-mountains
Salih YILDIRIM
3mountain belt
Nesrin80
3See explanation
Özden Arıkan


  

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mountain belt


Explanation:
Dağ kemeri can be translated as mountain belt.
ergene thus maden yeri is translated as mining location.
hope its of any help

Nesrin80
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See explanation


Explanation:
When I google "dağ kemeri", always the same thing turns out - some version of this sentence: "Dağın doruğu olan bu yere dağ kemeri anlamında Ergene kelimesiyle dik anlamındaki Kon kelimesini birleştirerek Ergenekon adını verdiler." In no other context I could find the term. And this sentence suggests that the term is used in the sense of "the curved top of a mountain". "Kemer" may be used in the sense of a curve in Turkish, for instance, "burun kemeri" is the curve of the nasal bone. So, it shouldn't be thought of as "belt" - mountain belt in English would suggest a structure like a mountain chain.

Having said this, these online sources should always be approached with a huge grain of salt, as they all copy each other - check for yourself, the same sentence comes up over and over again, and in no other context the term is used. So, it's apparently a not-too-successful invention and not a natural Turkish usage.

It's true that the TDK dictionary says "ergene" is an obsolete term for mine, a place where there is mine: http://tinyurl.com/5nvoyj

As for "yeni, el değmemiş", it should be "erden"=virgin

Conclusion: the etymology of Ergenekon is not yet clear, well, to me at least :-)

Özden Arıkan
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valley in between the high and rough mountain peaks


Explanation:
dağ kemeri is used to describe the valleys laid at the high mountains between the rough peaks of the mountain and this histrocial story
name ergenekon was given to such a valley because it was virgin before them and at such a hidden place that would be hard to find again (i trust they were right because still the people are searching where it was??!!!)



semen
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Range of high-mountains


Explanation:
I perceive in this way.

Salih YILDIRIM
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