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Quoting for web sites. | true

Brandis (X) — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:04:00 +0000

Forum: Localization
Topic: Quoting for web sites.
Poster: Brandis (X)
Post title: true

[quote]Toledo wrote:

A SWF file is only a prepared "fla" file (Flash)you can no translate it, you need the original fla File.

I think you shoud ask your client for files to be translate (docs, tagged docs, txt) or you will need a multimedia expert

[quote]Anthony Indra wrote:

- SWF should be translated with Macromedia Flash.

[/quote][/quote]or you would need flash prog. along with the server variant, to decode to txt area.
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Quoting for web sites. | not somany

Brandis (X) — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:03:00 +0000

Forum: Localization
Topic: Quoting for web sites.
Poster: Brandis (X)
Post title: not somany

[quote]Sonja Tomaskovic wrote:

[quote]Ana D. wrote:

.htm
.gif
.jpg
.asp
.psd
.swf

[/quote]

Hello Ana,

I doubt that there are any tools out there that can count words in gif and jpg files, as these are file extensions for graphics. Are you sure you need to translate them? It is usually not possible to edit the image itself. (There are workarounds, of course, but it is really tedious to insert a textbox over the original text, matching the exact font size and background color.)

psd files are Photoshop bitmaps (the proprietary Photoshop format). These files can be edited with Photoshop (and a couple of other tools that have a Photoshop plugin). However, I don't think there is a function that allows for word counting in psd-files.

The same goes for asp and swf files. These files cannot be edited that easy. If your client wants you to translate these files, they should provide you with the content in Word or RTF, so they can c&p it back themselves. Editing of these files usually requires special software (asp is probably editable in any texteditor, such as notepad, and swf files should be editable with Swish or something...).

My advice:
Count the htm-files and ask your client to provide you with the content of the other files (preferably in Word).

Regards,

Sonja ;)

[Edited at 2004-01-11 23:14][/quote]all these generally do not need to be translated, this is the code area. only whatever is there, which is to be projected to the web, generally needs to be translated. For this purpose there are quite a range of globalization and localization tools, which accelerate the realization.
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Quoting for web sites. | OmegaT for example...

Fernando Toledo — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:37:00 +0000

Forum: Localization
Topic: Quoting for web sites.
Poster: Fernando Toledo
Post title: OmegaT for example...

...na, na!
good businessman ;)

[quote]MarcPrior wrote:

[quote]Anthony Indra wrote:

Please note that ASP and HTM that can only translated in text editor programs(notepad/wordpad) would need extra times compared to the usual text translations[/quote]

There are several programs that can be used to translate text in HTML whilst preserving the codes. OmegaT, for example, not only preserves the HTML code but also enables you to translate an entire web site with multiple-level subdirectories, outputting the files in an identical directory structure.

Marc

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Quoting for web sites. | You can not translate a SWF

Fernando Toledo — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 09:54:00 +0000

Forum: Localization
Topic: Quoting for web sites.
Poster: Fernando Toledo
Post title: You can not translate a SWF

A SWF file is only a prepared "fla" file (Flash)you can no translate it, you need the original fla File.

I think you shoud ask your client for files to be translate (docs, tagged docs, txt) or you will need a multimedia expert

[quote]Anthony Indra wrote:

- SWF should be translated with Macromedia Flash.

[/quote]

Quoting for web sites. | HTM(L)

Marc P (X) — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:30:00 +0000

Forum: Localization
Topic: Quoting for web sites.
Poster: Marc P (X)
Post title: HTM(L)

[quote]Anthony Indra wrote:

Please note that ASP and HTM that can only translated in text editor programs(notepad/wordpad) would need extra times compared to the usual text translations[/quote]

There are several programs that can be used to translate text in HTML whilst preserving the codes. OmegaT, for example, not only preserves the HTML code but also enables you to translate an entire web site with multiple-level subdirectories, outputting the files in an identical directory structure.

Marc

[url removed]

Quoting for web sites. | Agreed with Sonja, and..

Ray Indra — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:03:00 +0000

Forum: Localization
Topic: Quoting for web sites.
Poster: Ray Indra
Post title: Agreed with Sonja, and..

- SWF should be translated with Macromedia Flash.

Please note that ASP and HTM that can only translated in text editor programs(notepad/wordpad) would need extra times compared to the usual text translations, because you should be careful about the programming codes.

All in all, ask them to provide you the .TXT.

Quoting for web sites. | Do they ALL need translation?

Sonja Tomaskovic (X) — Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:09:00 +0000

Forum: Localization
Topic: Quoting for web sites.
Poster: Sonja Tomaskovic (X)
Post title: Do they ALL need translation?

[quote]Ana D. wrote:

.htm
.gif
.jpg
.asp
.psd
.swf

[/quote]

Hello Ana,

I doubt that there are any tools out there that can count words in gif and jpg files, as these are file extensions for graphics. Are you sure you need to translate them? It is usually not possible to edit the image itself. (There are workarounds, of course, but it is really tedious to insert a textbox over the original text, matching the exact font size and background color.)

psd files are Photoshop bitmaps (the proprietary Photoshop format). These files can be edited with Photoshop (and a couple of other tools that have a Photoshop plugin). However, I don't think there is a function that allows for word counting in psd-files.

The same goes for asp and swf files. These files cannot be edited that easy. If your client wants you to translate these files, they should provide you with the content in Word or RTF, so they can c&p it back themselves. Editing of these files usually requires special software (asp is probably editable in any texteditor, such as notepad, and swf files should be editable with Swish or something...).

My advice:
Count the htm-files and ask your client to provide you with the content of the other files (preferably in Word).

Regards,

Sonja ;)

[Edited at 2004-01-11 23:14]

Quoting for web sites.

A. Deb — Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:18:00 +0000

Forum: Localization
Topic: Quoting for web sites.
Poster: A. Deb

Hello everyone.

Is there a fast an effective tool that creates quotations for web sites? Up to now, I've only used webbudget, but I don't think it will help me in the case in question. The files that I have to quote for have the following extensions, and I was wondering if anyone knows of a tool that can help me count the words for ALL of these types of file:

.htm
.gif
.jpg
.asp
.psd
.swf

Many thanks.

Ana