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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | I laughed all the way through.</title>
			<author>Kuochoe Nikoi-Kotei</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654394#1654394</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Kuochoe Nikoi-Kotei&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; I laughed all the way through.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;4. The manager takes 20% of all payment.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Made me think it was a joke, but then&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;9. Your rate must be below 0.03 US$/word .&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;made me think it was not. This sounds like the kind of desperate get-rich-quick scheme someone could think of after failing to make it on their own. They try to reach out to other unsuccessful people, hence the low rate. I hope no one&#039;s actually dumb enough to fall for it...</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | Karma</title>
			<author>P.L.F. Persi (X)</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654378#1654378</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; P.L.F. Persi (X)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Karma&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[quote]Samuel Murray wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[quote]Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:&lt;br /&gt;Personally, this job ad is not only shocking but offensive and beyond my tolerance. [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do you do when something goes beyond your tolerance?&lt;br /&gt; [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other than putting it straight into the waste bin, maybe we should hire a shaman and put a Voodoo curse on the culprit. :evil: [/quote]&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You know what? You don&#039;t have to lift a finger. Let life take care of these so-and-so&#039;s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A couple of customers of mine did not want to honor their contracts; after having brought legal actions against them and won, I was told one fell seriously ill, the other died straight away. I even felt sorry for them (and a tiny bit of &lt;i&gt;Schadenfreude&lt;/i&gt;, I must admit) but my conscience was clean.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for the topic: I feel your frustration, my dear colleagues, however &quot;&lt;i&gt;non ragioniam di lor, ma guarda e passa&lt;/i&gt;.&quot; (let us not speak of them, but look, and pass on.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I wish you all a very Happy 2011!&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | Maybe a Voodoo curse?</title>
			<author>Yasutomo Kanazawa</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654367#1654367</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Yasutomo Kanazawa&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Maybe a Voodoo curse?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]Samuel Murray wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[quote]Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:&lt;br /&gt;Personally, this job ad is not only shocking but offensive and beyond my tolerance. [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do you do when something goes beyond your tolerance?&lt;br /&gt; [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other than putting it straight into the waste bin, maybe we should hire a shaman and put a Voodoo curse on the culprit. :evil:</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | What will you do about it?</title>
			<author>Samuel Murray</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654339#1654339</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Samuel Murray&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; What will you do about it?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:&lt;br /&gt;Personally, this job ad is not only shocking but offensive and beyond my tolerance. [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do you do when something goes beyond your tolerance?&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | Offensive</title>
			<author>Yasutomo Kanazawa</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654318#1654318</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Yasutomo Kanazawa&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Offensive&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]kenny2006woo wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[quote]I normally delete such offers right away, but this one is so hilarious, I have to post it:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--&lt;br /&gt;Job Description&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have You always wanted to work in a translation company? Are you a certified English translator and a Native speaker of the language you translate to/from? Well, if so, You&#039;re on the right place. A new XX company is adding certified translators to it&#039;s team! ALL LANGUAGES ARE NEEDED!&lt;br /&gt;Please, read this part, and if you agree with the conditions, you may be the perfect candidate for this team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. The manager will arrange the jobs, and will receive &quot;materials&quot;(documents which have to be translated, etc.). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.After the manager receives the material, she will provide it to the contractors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.When the material is translated, the contractors provide it back to the manager who provides it to the client.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. The manager takes 20% of all payment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. The manager won&#039;t take 20% of the payment from 2 contractors. If you receive the best feedback, or earn the biggest amount of money, You will be one of them!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. If you receive a very low feedback(below 3.5), You will have to leave the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7.The potential job will be discussed with contractors before arranging.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8.Contractors MUST translate the provided document at least 24 hours before the deadline. If not, they will have to leave the team. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. Your rate must be below 0.03 US$/word .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10. This is not an exclusive company(a company which doesn&#039;t allow her contractors to work by themselves of for another company) but you have the right to decline to work on a project once a month. If You decline a project without a good reason 2 times a month, You will have to leave the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IMPORTANT: We do not guarantee a constant workflow!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, if you agree with theese rules, if you&#039;re a certified translator and a Native speaker of a language you translate to/from and if your rate is below 0,03 $/word I belive you&#039;re the perfect match for our company.&lt;br /&gt;However, if you don&#039;t agree with theese rules, or you&#039;re not a certified translator, or you&#039;re not a Native speaker of a language you translate to/from and if your rate isn&#039;t below 0,03/word do not bid at all! Your proposal will be declined immidiately.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We&#039;re able to add an unlimited number of translators in our team, so don&#039;t be discouraged!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When biding, please provide a sample of work, and Your rate/word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank You, and good luck,&lt;br /&gt;YYY&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Happy new year everybody!&lt;br /&gt;My new year&#039;s resolution: educate beginners that offers like this one are not the norm but should be rejected - ALWAYS!&lt;br /&gt;[/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such an offer ought to be rejected immediately. How outrageous are some of the requirements!  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PS: There&#039;re at least four typos in the job description.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Edited at 2011-01-01 04:59 GMT] [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally, this job ad is not only shocking but offensive and beyond my tolerance.</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | Deluded</title>
			<author>Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654300#1654300</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 10:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Deluded&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If they think that they will get good feedback from customers for 3 cents per word... they are clearly deluded. In my opinion they will dismiss all of their translators at some point and they will never have the stable team they need in order to please customers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The whole business concept is a fail.</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | Yes I agree</title>
			<author>Halil Ibrahim Tutuncuoglu &quot;Бёcäטsع Լîfe&#039;s cômplicåtعd eñøugh&quot;</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654250#1654250</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 06:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Halil Ibrahim Tutuncuoglu &quot;Бёcäטsع Լîfe&#039;s cômplicåtعd eñøugh&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Yes I agree&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The best is to delete such offers right away.</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | I ran across the same ad</title>
			<author>Daniel Weston</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654249#1654249</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 06:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Daniel Weston&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; I ran across the same ad&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hi, I saw this ad as well, a couple of days ago.  I had to laugh, but I didn&#039;t think it was a joke!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Happy New Year</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | shocked</title>
			<author>kenny2006woo (X)</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654244#1654244</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; kenny2006woo (X)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; shocked&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]I normally delete such offers right away, but this one is so hilarious, I have to post it:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--&lt;br /&gt;Job Description&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have You always wanted to work in a translation company? Are you a certified English translator and a Native speaker of the language you translate to/from? Well, if so, You&#039;re on the right place. A new XX company is adding certified translators to it&#039;s team! ALL LANGUAGES ARE NEEDED!&lt;br /&gt;Please, read this part, and if you agree with the conditions, you may be the perfect candidate for this team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. The manager will arrange the jobs, and will receive &quot;materials&quot;(documents which have to be translated, etc.). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.After the manager receives the material, she will provide it to the contractors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.When the material is translated, the contractors provide it back to the manager who provides it to the client.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. The manager takes 20% of all payment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. The manager won&#039;t take 20% of the payment from 2 contractors. If you receive the best feedback, or earn the biggest amount of money, You will be one of them!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. If you receive a very low feedback(below 3.5), You will have to leave the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7.The potential job will be discussed with contractors before arranging.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8.Contractors MUST translate the provided document at least 24 hours before the deadline. If not, they will have to leave the team. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. Your rate must be below 0.03 US$/word .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10. This is not an exclusive company(a company which doesn&#039;t allow her contractors to work by themselves of for another company) but you have the right to decline to work on a project once a month. If You decline a project without a good reason 2 times a month, You will have to leave the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IMPORTANT: We do not guarantee a constant workflow!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, if you agree with theese rules, if you&#039;re a certified translator and a Native speaker of a language you translate to/from and if your rate is below 0,03 $/word I belive you&#039;re the perfect match for our company.&lt;br /&gt;However, if you don&#039;t agree with theese rules, or you&#039;re not a certified translator, or you&#039;re not a Native speaker of a language you translate to/from and if your rate isn&#039;t below 0,03/word do not bid at all! Your proposal will be declined immidiately.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We&#039;re able to add an unlimited number of translators in our team, so don&#039;t be discouraged!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When biding, please provide a sample of work, and Your rate/word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank You, and good luck,&lt;br /&gt;YYY&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Happy new year everybody!&lt;br /&gt;My new year&#039;s resolution: educate beginners that offers like this one are not the norm but should be rejected - ALWAYS!&lt;br /&gt;[/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such an offer ought to be rejected immediately. How outrageous are some of the requirements!  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PS: There&#039;re at least four typos in the job description.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Edited at 2011-01-01 04:59 GMT]</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | Yes</title>
			<author>Elías Sauza</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654196#1654196</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 00:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Elías Sauza&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Yes&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That must be someone already in the business, and he/she is indeed desperate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Happy 2011.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Elías</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | There is a little bit of joke in every joke...</title>
			<author>Oleksandr Kupriyanchuk</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654192#1654192</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Oleksandr Kupriyanchuk&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; There is a little bit of joke in every joke...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...but the rest is the truth :razz:. Well, almost :wink: .&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Happy Translating Year to everybody!</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | It has to be a joke from a witty colleague...</title>
			<author>Lise Leavitt</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654174#1654174</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Lise Leavitt&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; It has to be a joke from a witty colleague...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;...wanting to bring us into the new year with a smile.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HAPPY NEW YEAR!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;L.</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate? | LOL</title>
			<author>imatahan</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654171#1654171</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; imatahan&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; LOL&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No, I am not!</description>
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			<title>Are we really that desperate?</title>
			<author>Simone Linke</author>
			<category>Off topic</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/1654168#1654168</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Off topic&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Are we really that desperate?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Simone Linke&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I normally delete such offers right away, but this one is so hilarious, I have to post it:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--&lt;br /&gt;Job Description&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have You always wanted to work in a translation company? Are you a certified English translator and a Native speaker of the language you translate to/from? Well, if so, You&#039;re on the right place. A new XX company is adding certified translators to it&#039;s team! ALL LANGUAGES ARE NEEDED!&lt;br /&gt;Please, read this part, and if you agree with the conditions, you may be the perfect candidate for this team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; 1. The manager will arrange the jobs, and will receive  &quot;materials&quot;(documents which have to be translated, etc.). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; 2.After the manager receives the material, she will provide it to the contractors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.When the material is translated, the contractors provide it back to the manager who provides it to the client.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. The manager takes 20% of all payment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. The manager won&#039;t take 20% of the payment from 2 contractors. If you receive the best feedback, or earn the biggest amount of money, You will be one of them!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. If you receive a very low feedback(below 3.5), You will have to leave the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7.The potential job will be discussed with contractors before arranging.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8.Contractors MUST translate the provided document at least 24 hours before the deadline. If not, they will have to leave the team. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. Your rate must be below 0.03 US$/word .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10. This is not an exclusive company(a company which doesn&#039;t allow her contractors to work by themselves of for another company) but you have the right to decline to work on a project once a month. If You decline a project without a good reason 2 times a month, You will have to leave the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IMPORTANT: We do not guarantee a constant workflow!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, if you agree with theese rules, if you&#039;re a certified translator and a Native speaker of a language you translate to/from  and if your rate is below 0,03 $/word I belive you&#039;re the perfect match for our company.&lt;br /&gt;However, if you don&#039;t agree with theese rules, or you&#039;re not a certified translator, or you&#039;re not a Native speaker of a language you translate to/from  and if your rate isn&#039;t below 0,03/word do not bid at all! Your proposal will be declined immidiately.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We&#039;re able to add an unlimited number of translators in our team, so don&#039;t be discouraged!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When biding, please provide a sample of work, and Your rate/word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank You, and good luck,&lt;br /&gt;YYY&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Happy new year everybody! :-)&lt;br /&gt;My new year&#039;s resolution: educate beginners that offers like this one are not the norm but should be rejected - ALWAYS!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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