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NAS storage systems | I needed Internet connection for obtaining the latest firmware

Jerzy Czopik — Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:21:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Jerzy Czopik
Post title: I needed Internet connection for obtaining the latest firmware

But I did not register with QNAP for Internet services.
I may do that some day later, as I planned to get acces to my data via VPN, but first I have to study how to make this secure. For the time being I am using the NAS only locally.
And the performance is really promissing.
The QNAP TS-219P+ is a semi-professional device, so if you go for one of the professional series the performance will even be better.
The NAS perfomance is also a function of the HDDs used. The Barracudas are quite fast for read, ok for writing, but very bad in copying data. The reading speed is indeed enough for my purposes. Also the write speed is ok for using Studio. However the performance of the whole system when I copied my working files from PC to NAS was not so good. Copying of some 150 GB data took around 12 hours... However, this I needed to do once, so I do not really care about that - I left the system doing that in the night.

NAS storage systems | Internet connection?

Daniel García — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:59:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Daniel García
Post title: Internet connection?

Thanks, Jerzy!

One of the things I like less for the Stora is that it needs an Internet connection for its setup. You have to register it with Netgear even if you are not planning to access it online.

I understand that this is not needed with most NAS devices. Is that the case with yours?

Daniel

NAS storage systems | Internediate report

Jerzy Czopik — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:44:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Jerzy Czopik
Post title: Internediate report

I've bought a QNAP Ts-219P+ NAS and two Seagate Barracuda HDDs, 2 TB each.
The HDDs are mounted to a RAID1 group, having thus a total storage capcity of just 2 TB, but giving me the security against the hardware crash.
The system is working in my office since one week.
I have migrated all my data but TMs and termbases to the NAS.
For the time being I did not have had any huge projects, but for normal and mid-size projects the NAS performs very well. I keep all project data, including project TM (from Studio 2009) on the NAS, while the master TMs, termbases and AutoSuggest dictionaries are placed localy. No performance dop-outs so far, so I can say the solution is good.
Advantages: data is available from any PC at home and (in the future) can be made accessible online. No space limits so far, I do not expect to get the NAS full withing the next few years. Due to the accessibility of data it will also be easier to cope with EN 15038 in terms of on-screen review.
Drawbacks: so far none.
Installation was easy, you do not need to be neither a hardware geek nor a software guru. Just place the HDDs on the tray, use enclosed screws and a screwdrvier to fix them, insert into the NAS and the hardware is ready. Then connect the hardware to the router and to power and switch it on. The rest is done nearly automaticaly, you just need to enter some values. Create a user account on the NAS as would you do in Windows, map the drive in Windows as network drive and start using it.
Price: roughly 450 EUR for the system including VAT.
Put together: the best solution I can think of for a small office. Vaule to price ratio beats every server.

NAS storage systems | Server not really a solution for me

Jerzy Czopik — Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:35:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Jerzy Czopik
Post title: Server not really a solution for me

What I need is in fact a fast storage device, as the HDD of my PC is too full.
So I need to bring my projects to an external drive.
Now the question was to bring only older projects there and keep the running ones localy or try to bring all working data but TMs and Termbases to the external drive.
I would like to try the second solution. After having spoken with Trados support, who says it should work, when the files are external, but TMs & TB internal, I decided to give it a try.
Would I go for a server this would involve the cost for operating system and new HDDs, as the PC I have is not large enough. I would maybe get additional 750 GB on disk space.
So I decided for a different solution.
I ordered a QNAP TS-219P+ and two Seagate HDDs 2 TB each.
This will give me a 2 TB NAS with RAI1 for security. Backups are realized by Acronis Backup&Recovery WS+, the backup target is an external USB HDD. I also have another external USB HDD connected, where all the private stuff like photos and so on is located.

When I get the drive I will report here.

NAS storage systems | Windows Home Server?

Daniel García — Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:24:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Daniel García
Post title: Windows Home Server?

Hi,

I have a Store device at home and I am quite happy with for the reasons already mentioned (speed, cost and simplicity for a Raid solution) but I would not use it for business, also for the reasons mentioned (too simple to tweak it to your needs, lack of good automatic backup software, needs internet connection, it is not clear how to prevent it from connecting to the Internet by itself).

For a small business setup, I think I would look at Windows Home Server ("home" hear means also "home office"). It's not too expensive, you can find small and silent devices with it installed and it allows for a much greater customisation than a NAS device.

For example, you can set it up to make full backups of your networked PCs or you can install SharePoint services and use it as a small document management system with centralised calendars and tasks lists (which also integrate with Outlook in the client PCs).

The drawback, as opposed to a NAS device is that it is more complicated to manage and that you can only use it at full potential with Windows clients.

I am sure that the same capabilities could be implemented with a small Linux server.

The PC on which you install the server does not have to be new nor powerful. I am running Windows Home Server on an 8-year-old Pentium 4 laptop with 2 gigabytes of RAM.

Jerzy, whatever you go for, I would find it interesting to know what you decide to use in the end.

Daniel

NAS storage systems | DNS-323 cheap -- but slooow

IrimiConsult (X) — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:05:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: IrimiConsult (X)
Post title: DNS-323 cheap -- but slooow

I have a DNS-323 with two 1TB discs in RAID1 mode, meaning that one drive can fail without losing the data.

The unit is small and fairly quiet but IMO too slow for other uses than backing up data. File copying speeds are 5-6 megabytes/second going downhill and with tailwind. I had intended to use it as a working disk, but even in a gigabit network it's fast enough only for backup.

On the other hand, it's still very cheap and reliable.

NAS storage systems | Same here

CasaPhil — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:26:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: CasaPhil
Post title: Same here

[quote]Jabberwock wrote:

I use DNS-323.

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It is quite small and relatively quiet (especially when standing on rubber mat).

As for the speed, I have nothing to compare it with, but it is certainly not the weakest link of my 1GB network. And I would not call it "professional-grade", but I don't mind. [/quote]

It's rather old equipment (2007), so I don't know how fast it is compared to newer models. I found it easy to set up without being a computer wizard. I use it only for RAID1 backup and JBoD archiving on a 100Mbps network, and I don't open files on a regular basis from there.
There is only one USB port, which I use for network printing.
With a static IP address, you can access files remotely. Interesting, but I've never used it.

As for the server/NAS pros/cons, some people argue that a purpose-built server is cheaper (Linux) and with more features than a ready-made NAS. I have no idea about this, but building your own server certainly requires time and skills that I don't have.

Best,
Philippe

NAS storage systems | Quite true

Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:26:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
Post title: Quite true

[quote]Jerzy Czopik wrote:
I can get a quite nice QNAP TS-219P+ with 4 TB storage for under 500 EUR.
There will never be a server available for that price. [/quote]
This is very true indeed. Even a reasonably-priced server with a server operating system will go well over the thousand euros, unless you grab your grandmother's machine and set it up as a server with some Linux packaging. :-)

I will keep following the topic. I might learn something new from it! Thanks Jerzy.

NAS storage systems | Price

Jerzy Czopik — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:09:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Jerzy Czopik
Post title: Price

I can get a quite nice QNAP TS-219P+ with 4 TB storage for under 500 EUR.
There will never be a server available for that price.

NAS storage systems | Why wouldn't a server be a solution?

Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:53:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
Post title: Why wouldn't a server be a solution?

I follow this very interesting topic. For our 4-people team, we have always been using servers. Jerzy, can you tell us a bit about your reasons not to use a server in the traditional sense?

NAS storage systems | Many reasons

Jerzy Czopik — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:20:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Jerzy Czopik
Post title: Many reasons

The first and most important:
To have all data in central location, available for two computers.
Second reason: to try to configure an access from outside via Internet.

NAS storage systems | Why would I do that?

Jaroslaw Michalak — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:14:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Jaroslaw Michalak
Post title: Why would I do that?

[quote]Jerzy Czopik wrote:

@Jabberwock: did you try to keep the files there whie working with your fvourite CAT on your desktop/laptop?
This is what I want to do: keep the files there, keep TMs and dictionaries local and work with the NAS as would it be a HDD in my PC. [/quote]

No, the performance would still suffer. Also, if I remember correctly, some CATs have problems with accessing network drives.

Actually, I use C: drive for all my work files. If it crashes, I can always restore the data from my second HD backup, my NAS (where it's doubled as it is configured as RAID1) or, if worst comes to worst, from my cloud backup.

NAS storage systems | D-Link

Jerzy Czopik — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:09:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Jerzy Czopik
Post title: D-Link

@Jabberwock: did you try to keep the files there whie working with your fvourite CAT on your desktop/laptop?
This is what I want to do: keep the files there, keep TMs and dictionaries local and work with the NAS as would it be a HDD in my PC.

NAS storage systems | DNS-323

Jaroslaw Michalak — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:59:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Jaroslaw Michalak
Post title: DNS-323

I use DNS-323.

[url removed]

It is quite small and relatively quiet (especially when standing on rubber mat).

As for the speed, I have nothing to compare it with, but it is certainly not the weakest link of my 1GB network. And I would not call it "professional-grade", but I don't mind.

NAS storage systems | You see - that is why I ask

Jerzy Czopik — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:33:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Jerzy Czopik
Post title: You see - that is why I ask

The systems you mention, both NetGear Stora and WD My Book are not designed for professional usage.
The system Andrzej mentions is already outdated as I could find, but there are followers and these are suitable and designed for professional use.

NAS storage systems | NetGear Stora

Enote — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:43:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Enote
Post title: NetGear Stora

I use this model trying to move from middle tower PC to barebone. It's cheap, small and quiet with 1Gb Ethernet.
But it has some strange features:
Software is really for "dummies"
It needs working router with DHCP server enabled
It needs Internet connection on install (tries to upgrade firmware)
It creates predefined folders with funny names
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NAS storage systems | Own experience:

FarkasAndras — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:31:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: FarkasAndras
Post title: Own experience:

... avoid.
I got a Western Digital MyBook NAS, and it hasn't lived up to expectations. It was excruciatingly slow through wifi and only slightly faster through ethernet cable, and using the built-in media server broke my internet connection every time - when it worked, because most of the time it simply didn't. I never got around to trying the online file access, because I got fed up and bought a USB 3.0 external drive instead of struggling with the NAS.
Of course, all the problems could be attributed to my wifi router, but the router is a Linksys WRT54G, the best regarded consumer router there is, and it works flawlessly in general. My download speeds from the internet were faster than copy speeds to and from the NAS... I wasn't in the mood to get a new router and hope it solves the problems.

In related news, anyone want to buy a slightly used NAS from me?

;)

P.s. if you are undeterred, a *very* computer-savvy friend swears by drobo.

NAS storage systems | QNAP TS-509 Turbo Station

Andrzej Lejman — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:23:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Andrzej Lejman
Post title: QNAP TS-509 Turbo Station

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[Edited at 2011-01-23 10:24 GMT]

NAS storage systems

Jerzy Czopik — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:29:00 +0000

Forum: Hardware
Topic: NAS storage systems
Poster: Jerzy Czopik

Anyone experienced here?
I am looking for a system, that would be[list]
[*]fast
[*]small
[*]quiet[/list]

Any hints from own experience?
Many thanks
Best regards
Jerzy