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Word transposition apps | Thanks!

Dr Sarai Pahla, MBChB — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:08:00 +0000

Forum: Software applications
Topic: Word transposition apps
Poster: Dr Sarai Pahla, MBChB
Post title: Thanks!

Hi all,

Thanks for your responses - I have shared the link to this thread to allow the person who asked me the question to see it, but I haven't yet got a response to the question why they wanted the app in the first place. The person is not an ESL teacher though, but works for a consulting firm... so I really have no idea! :)

RegEx sounds like a pretty good idea in my opinion - thanks Meta Arkadia for that. It's a bit hard to determine how it would work without knowing the source data sets, but hey, I'll wait to hear what they say and keep you guys posted if necessary.

Word transposition apps | Much easier

Meta Arkadia — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 04:54:00 +0000

Forum: Software applications
Topic: Word transposition apps
Poster: Meta Arkadia
Post title: Much easier

- select the sentence
- replace all spaces by returns
- convert text to table
- sort alphabetically
- convert table to text
- replace all returns by spaces

You now have the sentence with the words in alphabetical order (so not a random order, but that doesn't really matter, does it?).
I think I can automate that, but only for Mac. Shouldn't be difficult for Windows (a bunch of macros, I suppose?).

Cheers,

Hans (still thinking…)

Word transposition apps | Regular Expressions

Meta Arkadia — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 05:27:00 +0000

Forum: Software applications
Topic: Word transposition apps
Poster: Meta Arkadia
Post title: Regular Expressions

[Jessica, you could very well be right]

You should be able to do that with regular expressions. I'm an absolute regex beginner (started to study it yesterday), but minutes after reading Sarai's post, I came across the following:

Rearranging Name Lists
You can use grep patterns to transform a list of names in first name first form to last name first order (for a later sorting, for instance). Assume that the names are in the form:
Junior X. Potter
Jill Safai
Dylan Schuyler Goode
Walter Wang
If you use this search pattern:
^(.*) ([^ ]+)$
And this replacement string:
\2, \1
The transformed list becomes:
Potter, Junior X.
Safai, Jill
Goode, Dylan Schuyler
Wang, Walter*

I suppose this could be the starting point of rearranging whole sentences.

*Taken from the TextWrangler User Manual. I can upload it if you want. I can't write the regex yet, though.

Cheers,

Hans

Word transposition apps | ESL?

Jessica Noyes — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 05:12:00 +0000

Forum: Software applications
Topic: Word transposition apps
Poster: Jessica Noyes
Post title: ESL?

Maybe she is an ESL teacher trying to generate some scrambled sentences for her students to reassemble.

Word transposition apps | I'll ask!

Dr Sarai Pahla, MBChB — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:15:00 +0000

Forum: Software applications
Topic: Word transposition apps
Poster: Dr Sarai Pahla, MBChB
Post title: I'll ask!

[quote]neilmac wrote:

However, what I'd find more intesting would be to know what prompted the query in the first place. [/quote]

Thanks for your suggestion! I will pass it on. I will ask about that in more detail tomorrow - the person was in a bit of a hurry today, so I couldn't ask, but I'm also rather curious...

Word transposition apps | Don't know, but

neilmac — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:44:00 +0000

Forum: Software applications
Topic: Word transposition apps
Poster: neilmac
Post title: Don't know, but

I assume it would be relatively easy to write a program to do this, at least on a basic level. For example, "Internet Anagram Server" ( [url removed] ) rearranges names into several different orders, and I suppose a similar program could be extended to whole sentences.

However, what I'd find more intesting would be to know what prompted the query in the first place.

Word transposition apps

Dr Sarai Pahla, MBChB — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:38:00 +0000

Forum: Software applications
Topic: Word transposition apps
Poster: Dr Sarai Pahla, MBChB

I received a rather interesting request from a non-linguist, asking me whether there are any apps available that will change the word order of English sentences (I assume that it should introduce minimal grammatical errors, if that is at all possible).

Does such a thing exist? Could anyone point me in the right direction?