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Perfect! Everything's PERFECT! | Perfectly idiotic...

Christine Andersen — Wed, 12 Mar 2014 15:59:00 +0000

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Topic: Perfect! Everything's PERFECT!
Poster: Christine Andersen
Post title: Perfectly idiotic...

Everything in Danish seems to be 'unik' at the moment, which is just about the same thing.

According to the dictionary it should mean unique, one of a kind...

In practice describing something as 'unik' these days means it may be anything from outstanding or excellent to 'I like it and I am too lazy to think of another word'.

Last year one of my clients used it as a slogan, and in the end I had to remonstrate - I refused to write 'unique' in every line about their good quality standard products... It simply went over the top.

At first they sulked, but then they obviously thought better of it, and we worked out a principle for when we would use the slogan and when we would go for other adjectives. This year's slogan is more realistic and we are still friends!

With luck the craze will pass, but who knows what unfortunate word will be the next to lose all meaning?

Perfect! Everything's PERFECT! | On feedback and "prefection"

Natalia Mackevich — Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:05:00 +0000

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Poster: Natalia Mackevich
Post title: On feedback and "prefection"

I recently bought an item on ebay and got a feedback saying "whats prefect ebayer!" I laughed and then thought it's good that it's not my customer's feedback. Would you imagine "whats prefect tarnslater!" among your WWA records?

Perfect! Everything's PERFECT! | ...

Orrin Cummins — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:13:00 +0000

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[quote]Jeff Whittaker wrote:

And clients seem to expect perfection as well.

I worked with a team of translators on a huge 200,000 word project. I worked from early morning until after midnight on part of this job for over two weeks. I was exhausted. I spent hours and hours researching terminology and typing until I had almost worn the paint off the keyboard letters. The source document was full of spelling and grammatical errors (at least five on each page) and the language was difficult to understand (colloquial and non-standard).

In the time frame we were allotted, I think we pulled off yet another amazing feat (that shall forever go unrewarded) and that by all rights should have been impossible. Unfortunately, there was a very minor typo in the document that even the editor did not catch. It was obviously a typo and not a mistranslation (one of those things your brain just doesn't see because you are working so closely on the MEANING of the text), did not impede understanding, was easily corrected and the document was for internal use only.

The client was furious and sent a long letter about how disappointed they were (even though we translated 200,000 words in less than a month and never mind that it took them over a year to write the original document that was not perfect). They complained that they could not trust the accuracy of the rest of the translation. They called us incompetent and demanded that the entire document be reviewed again at no charge for quality control. They even went so far as to threaten non-payment. Never mind the hundreds of hours we put in getting every other detail correct, they focused on the one small blemish. They expected perfection. They had no idea of how much work it took to get the translation to be as good as it was. By doing a good job, we had made the translation look easy, even though it most certainly was not.

And did the agency back us up? No, they claimed that there was "nothing they could do" and that the "client is always right".

It's days like that one that make me want to throw in the towel and leave translation to the wolves and vultures and let them devour one another. Après moi, le déluge! :-)

[Edited at 2014-03-11 18:51 GMT] [/quote]

It is this same thankless attitude that lately has me translating less and less, instead doing other types of work that is almost always much more appreciated by the customer. We aren't slaves, and when I start to feel that I am perceived as such it just kind of takes all the fun out of this job.

Perfect! Everything's PERFECT! | I know how you feel Anthony

Jeff Whittaker — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 18:38:00 +0000

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Topic: Perfect! Everything's PERFECT!
Poster: Jeff Whittaker
Post title: I know how you feel Anthony

And clients seem to expect perfection as well.

I worked with a team of translators on a huge 200,000 word project. I worked from early morning until after midnight on part of this job for over two weeks. I was exhausted. I spent hours and hours researching terminology and typing until I had almost worn the paint off the keyboard letters. The source document was full of spelling and grammatical errors (at least five on each page) and the language was difficult to understand (colloquial and non-standard).

In the time frame we were allotted, I think we pulled off yet another amazing feat (that shall forever go unrewarded) and that by all rights should have been impossible. Unfortunately, there was a very minor typo in the document that even the editor did not catch. It was obviously a typo and not a mistranslation (one of those things your brain just doesn't see because you are working so closely on the MEANING of the text), did not impede understanding, was easily corrected and the document was for internal use only.

The client was furious and sent a long letter about how disappointed they were (even though we translated 200,000 words in less than a month and never mind that it took them over a year to write the original document that was not perfect). They complained that they could not trust the accuracy of the rest of the translation. They called us incompetent and demanded that the entire document be reviewed again at no charge for quality control. They even went so far as to threaten non-payment. Never mind the hundreds of hours we put in getting every other detail correct, they focused on the one small blemish. They expected perfection. They had no idea of how much work it took to get the translation to be as good as it was. By doing a good job, we had made the translation look easy, even though it most certainly was not.

And did the agency back us up? No, they claimed that there was "nothing they could do" and that the "client is always right".

It's days like that one that make me want to throw in the towel and leave translation to the wolves and vultures and let them devour one another. Après moi, le déluge! :-)

[Edited at 2014-03-11 18:51 GMT]

Perfect! Everything's PERFECT! | Perfection is like intelligence

Manuela Ribecai — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:54:00 +0000

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Topic: Perfect! Everything's PERFECT!
Poster: Manuela Ribecai
Post title: Perfection is like intelligence

Only the one who's not intelligent can think that he's.
Intelligent people always see the problems and lacks.

If you think (like me) that you're not perfect, I think you're maybe most perfect that those who think they are.

As my english is really not perfect, I'm not sure to be clear ;-)

Manuela

Perfect! Everything's PERFECT! | Nothing is Perfect

ATIL KAYHAN — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:37:00 +0000

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Poster: ATIL KAYHAN
Post title: Nothing is Perfect

Those e-mails are called SPAM for the lack of a better word. All I know about spam is that we should not spend any time on them. If we do spend any time on a particular spam, we would then be serving the people who create that spam.

Perfect! Everything's PERFECT! | Perfection

Henry Hinds — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:29:00 +0000

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Poster: Henry Hinds
Post title: Perfection

We can never truly reach it, we just try to get closer and closer every time.

Perfect! Everything's PERFECT!

Anthony Baldwin — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:17:00 +0000

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Poster: Anthony Baldwin

What is it lately, with all the abuse of the words "perfect" and "perfection"?

I receive daily dozens of e-mails from potential providers who claim that everything they do is 100% perfect.

Translator with Perfect Translation Skilz!
Perfekt DPT services!
My englesh is perfict!

And now, job postings demanding these perfect skills!

I don't think I can compete, any more.
I'm from the generation when people were human, after all.
I'm confident that I'm darned good at what I do.
I've been doing it a while now, and I went to school for a long time before that to learn how to do it.
But I will never claim that everything I do is 100% perfect.
I do occasionally make an error.
Even the best of us err from time to time.

When I receive these letters from folks claiming to be perfect, I can not take them seriously.
I can only assume they are either ignorant of the meaning of the word "perfect", or they are very arrogant, indeed.