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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | Subtitle creator web application</title>
			<author>Jarek Kulikowski</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2727503#2727503</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2018 01:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Jarek Kulikowski&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitle creator web application&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am a translator (amateur Polish-English) and a developer (professional).  Unsatisfied with the subtitle software I&#039;ve seen I decided to write my own.  You can find it at  [url removed]   The basic version should be simple to use.  Many advanced features are also available if you create an account (there is no fee).&lt;br /&gt;Although the current version is functional, I am constantly thinking of new features.  Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[Edited at 2018-05-15 01:20 GMT]</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | -</title>
			<author>Max Deryagin</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2722951#2722951</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2018 09:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Max Deryagin&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; -&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]jbjb wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Never used it myself but as far as I know, Annotation Edit is the only viable professional solution for Mac.&lt;br /&gt;Everybody seems to say, though, that is far worse than the leading PC software options. But up to 10 times cheaper as well. [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Belle Nuit is free now.</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | Annotation Edit</title>
			<author>jbjb</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2722948#2722948</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2018 09:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; jbjb&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Annotation Edit&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Never used it myself but as far as I know, Annotation Edit is the only viable professional solution for Mac.&lt;br /&gt;Everybody seems to say, though, that is far worse than the leading PC software options. But up to 10 times cheaper as well.</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | translating subtitles with Mac?</title>
			<author>Marja Härmänmaa</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2722702#2722702</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2018 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Marja Härmänmaa&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; translating subtitles with Mac?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hi everyone! Which program do you recommed for a professional subtitle translator working with Mac....? Thanks :-)</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | sorted :-)</title>
			<author>Bernadette Vincent-De heyder</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2393170#2393170</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Bernadette Vincent-De heyder&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; sorted :-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hi Max, sorry, wasn&#039;t clear enough. By hitting return after every line in the .txt file, it worked. I could open the document in Aegisub and have all the subtitles separated correctly. Now I just have to time it :-).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s just difficult to get clear information about the program even the official manual is a bit vague sometimes :-).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you :-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am not sure what you mean. Could you please elaborate? [/quote]</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | Not sure what you mean</title>
			<author>Max Deryagin</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2392937#2392937</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Max Deryagin&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Not sure what you mean&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]bernade wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I saw that you could import a txt file with the subtitles to save time. So I&#039;m trying to. Each actor&#039;s name if followed by a : There are only 2 actors, but somehow, the text is not cut between each actor, only between the same actor… Don&#039;t know what I&#039;m doing wrong...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks again &lt;br /&gt;[/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not sure what you mean. Could you please elaborate?</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | importing a txt file</title>
			<author>Bernadette Vincent-De heyder</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2392859#2392859</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Bernadette Vincent-De heyder&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; importing a txt file&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I saw that you could import a txt file with the subtitles to save time. So I&#039;m trying to. Each actor&#039;s name if followed by a : There are only 2 actors, but somehow, the text is not cut between each actor, only between the same actor… Don&#039;t know what I&#039;m doing wrong...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks again &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hi Bernade,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Aegisub, go to File → Export Subtitles → Select the text encoding → Click &quot;Export...&quot; → Select the *.srt format → browse to the destination folder → Click &quot;Save&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note, however, that Aegisub does not save formatting (font color/I/B/U). [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | yeh!</title>
			<author>Bernadette Vincent-De heyder</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2392840#2392840</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Bernadette Vincent-De heyder&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; yeh!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you:-)&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | Oh, it is easy</title>
			<author>Max Deryagin</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2392828#2392828</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Max Deryagin&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Oh, it is easy&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]bernade wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hi Max,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve been trying to find out how to convert .ass files to .srt files, but to no avail… Can you help?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bernie&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hi Bernade,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Aegisub, go to File → Export Subtitles → Select the text encoding → Click &quot;Export...&quot; → Select the *.srt format → browse to the destination folder → Click &quot;Save&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note, however, that Aegisub does not save formatting (font color/I/B/U).</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | Converting .ass to .srt</title>
			<author>Bernadette Vincent-De heyder</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2392817#2392817</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Bernadette Vincent-De heyder&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Converting .ass to .srt&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hi Max,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve been trying to find out how to convert .ass files to .srt files, but to no avail… Can you help?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bernie&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | so kind</title>
			<author>Bernadette Vincent-De heyder</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2385332#2385332</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Bernadette Vincent-De heyder&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; so kind&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]Max Deryagin wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now please consult to the following manual for an easier learning curve:  [url removed] &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Feel free to ask me anything about working in Aegisub. I&#039;ll be glad to help. [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate and will most certainly ask for help at some point!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;B.</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | Well done</title>
			<author>Max Deryagin</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2385281#2385281</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Max Deryagin&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Well done&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]bernade wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I tried again just now, and it finally worked :-).&lt;br /&gt; [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now please consult to the following manual for an easier learning curve:  [url removed] &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Feel free to ask me anything about working in Aegisub. I&#039;ll be glad to help.</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | Thanks again</title>
			<author>Bernadette Vincent-De heyder</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2385136#2385136</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Bernadette Vincent-De heyder&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Thanks again&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I tried again just now, and it finally worked :-).&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | Alternative</title>
			<author>Max Deryagin</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2385130#2385130</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Max Deryagin&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Alternative&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]bernade wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[quote]Max Deryagin wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ll be brutally honest here: Subtitle Workshop doesn&#039;t cut it for professional subtitling — for many reasons, but mainly because it lacks shot change detection, which makes creating accurate, standards-compliant timecodes simply impossible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aegisub is a superb tool that I used for subtitling for 4 years. Bear in mind, however, that it was created specifically for anime fansubbing — and it excels in that domain, but when it comes to other kinds of subtitling, it does not provide sufficient functionality (for instance, it has no checks save for reading speed and line length).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the time being, you should use Aegisub; it is definitely one of the best (if not the best) free subtitling tools compatible with Mac. It is very different from SW in how it works, however, so you will have to adapt. [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the advice. I&#039;m having troubles downloading the software, I left a message on Aegisub forum but no solutions yet... [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can go to the Downloads section, scroll down to the OS X category and try and download any of the previous versions.  [url removed] </description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | Thanks Luigi</title>
			<author>Bernadette Vincent-De heyder</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2385055#2385055</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 06:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Bernadette Vincent-De heyder&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Thanks Luigi&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]Luigi Borriello wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have used Jubler to write my BA thesis. It worked well! [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Appreciate the tip :-)</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | Thanks Marc</title>
			<author>Bernadette Vincent-De heyder</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2385052#2385052</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Bernadette Vincent-De heyder&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Thanks Marc&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]Max Deryagin wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ll be brutally honest here: Subtitle Workshop doesn&#039;t cut it for professional subtitling — for many reasons, but mainly because it lacks shot change detection, which makes creating accurate, standards-compliant timecodes simply impossible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aegisub is a superb tool that I used for subtitling for 4 years. Bear in mind, however, that it was created specifically for anime fansubbing — and it excels in that domain, but when it comes to other kinds of subtitling, it does not provide sufficient functionality (for instance, it has no checks save for reading speed and line length).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the time being, you should use Aegisub; it is definitely one of the best (if not the best) free subtitling tools compatible with Mac. It is very different from SW in how it works, however, so you will have to adapt. [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the advice. I&#039;m having troubles downloading the software, I left a message on Aegisub forum but no solutions yet...</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | Try Jubler</title>
			<author>Luigi Borriello</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2385035#2385035</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Luigi Borriello&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; Try Jubler&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have used Jubler to write my BA thesis. It worked well!</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | I see</title>
			<author>Max Deryagin</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2385022#2385022</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2015 22:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Max Deryagin&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; I see&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]bernade wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hi Max,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m a translator but wanted to learn more about subtitling and I&#039;m just starting an online course with a university in the UK which uses Subtitle Workshop. But I work with a Mac, so I&#039;m trying to find, if possible, a free software for the time being. What do you think of Aegisub? [/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ll be brutally honest here: Subtitle Workshop doesn&#039;t cut it for professional subtitling — for many reasons, but mainly because it lacks shot change detection, which makes creating accurate, standards-compliant timecodes simply impossible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aegisub is a superb tool that I used for subtitling for 4 years. Bear in mind, however, that it was created specifically for anime fansubbing — and it excels in that domain, but when it comes to other kinds of subtitling, it does not provide sufficient functionality (for instance, it has no checks save for reading speed and line length).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the time being, you should use Aegisub; it is definitely one of the best (if not the best) free subtitling tools compatible with Mac. It is very different from SW in how it works, however, so you will have to adapt.</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | free software</title>
			<author>Bernadette Vincent-De heyder</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2384912#2384912</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2015 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Bernadette Vincent-De heyder&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; free software&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hi Max,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m a translator but wanted to learn more about subtitling and I&#039;m just starting an online course with a university in the UK which uses Subtitle Workshop. But I work with a Mac, so I&#039;m trying to find, if possible, a free software for the time being. What do you think of Aegisub?</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac | It depends on many things</title>
			<author>Max Deryagin</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2384902#2384902</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2015 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Max Deryagin&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post title:&lt;/b&gt; It depends on many things&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote]bernade wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What are the best subtitling software for Mac?[/quote]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear bernade,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no such thing as &quot;the subtitling best software for X&quot;. All the programs have their pros and cons, and which one suits you best depends on your budget and your specific professional needs. Please outline the two, so that I can proceed giving you advice on which tool to pick.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[Edited at 2015-01-12 15:40 GMT]</description>
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			<title>Subtitling software for Mac</title>
			<author>Bernadette Vincent-De heyder</author>
			<category>Subtitling</category>
			<link>http://www.proz.com/post/2384894#2384894</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2015 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<description>&lt;b&gt;Forum:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Topic:&lt;/b&gt; Subtitling software for Mac&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poster:&lt;/b&gt; Bernadette Vincent-De heyder&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What are the best subtitling software for Mac? </description>
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