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Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | The vintage club

José Henrique Lamensdorf — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 09:54:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: José Henrique Lamensdorf
Post title: The vintage club

[quote]Julian Holmes wrote:

[quote]Luiz Barucke wrote:

...

However, I'm not the kind of guy who upgrades my software tools or OS each time an upgrade is released. When I find a software which fits well and helps me with my needs, I get used to it and avoid updating all the time.

.... [/quote]

Thumbs up for Luiz, here. Once I find what fits me best, I stick to it. That goes for both software and OS's, to boot (pun intended). BTW, I'm still running XP. Do I hear any of you gasping? :eek:
However, I do realize that, with various mail and memory problems, my machines are become degraded so I am installing a new RAID 1 machine with Windows 7 installed. Do I hear any more gasps? [/quote]

I'm still running Windows XP, too, and apparently will have to continue doing so.

I am the IT guru at home. My elder son is a world-class IT guru working in a large company, but he lives elsewhere with wife & kids. The other son & wife live overseas. So my wife, stepson, and daughter are my current clientele. They have been through all Windows versions since XP, so I've seen the few - if any - advantages, and the smothering shortcomings and glitches each one had. Today, all of them are running Windows 10, after a desperate escape from the horrible 8.1.

As it's easy for me, I have Windows 10 installed on a SSD drive, and it's merely a matter of plugging it in. Yes, I could select the OS at boot time but, after the test, I chose to unplug it. Compatibility issues abound in Win 10, and both my printers (which serve the entire household) would have to be replaced. Speed is much lower, like after four fat guys having boarded your car. What's the point?

On another front, I still use Page Maker v6.52; didn't like v7. Yes, I tried InDesign, but I don't really need all that fancy stuff. PM allows me to rebuild a complex publication so quickly, that people who watch the process wonder why so many people use MS Word for anything beyond what a typewriter could do.

I was a Netscape fan, for those who remember it. Didn't like Thunderbird, and never had Outlook installed in any computer of mine. Then I found the Vintage Club within Mozilla. They didn't like Thunderbird/Firefox created a modern version of Netscape, named it SeaMonkey, and that's my #1 browser and e-mail client.

My impression is that hardware and software industries are in cahoots. The latter is not improving its products, but only making them bulkier, heavier and more demanding, so the former can keep selling more powerful computers to cope with that unnecessary burden. That's their sustainability model, pushing the demand to keep selling and staying afloat.

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | I'm all into vintage

cloudhunter (X) — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 06:37:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: cloudhunter (X)
Post title: I'm all into vintage

[quote]Julian Holmes wrote:

Do I hear any of you gasping? :eek:

with Windows 7 installed. Do I hear any more gasps? [/quote]

Not at all! I have a laptop, which runs with Win 8 and does not seem to want to work with Win 7. But they offered an update to Win 10, which I did. The whole process took ages (literall 5 hours!) and everything I had seemed to experience compatibility issues. So I restored the settings, which took 6 hours.

My desktop machine is a fairly old one but my husband is well familiar with IT so he does the maintenance for me (like new graphic card, hard drive or memory). My computer runs on Win 7 and I consequently refused to upgrade on Win 10.

I would have also stayed with XP but they don't support it anymore and I like to know there is a helping hand there :grin:

I also have the new MemoQ (which I love) and Trados (which I hate now even more than ever before and will definitely not byu anymore).

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | No

Julian Holmes — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 03:13:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: Julian Holmes
Post title: No

[quote]Luiz Barucke wrote:

...

However, I'm not the kind of guy who upgrades my software tools or OS each time an upgrade is released. When I find a software which fits well and helps me with my needs, I get used to it and avoid updating all the time.

.... [/quote]

Thumbs up for Luiz, here. Once I find what fits me best, I stick to it. That goes for both software and OS's, to boot (pun intended). BTW, I'm still running XP. Do I hear any of you gasping? :eek:
However, I do realize that, with various mail and memory problems, my machines are become degraded so I am installing a new RAID 1 machine with Windows 7 installed. Do I hear any more gasps?

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | No

Mario Freitas — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 18:34:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: Mario Freitas
Post title: No

But I intend to if I realize the new features are worth it. I don't think you have to do it for 'every' new version. For example, most people who migrated from Windos 7 to Windows 8 deeply regreted it. I was one who wasted some money, just to throw Win 8 in the trash can. It's wiser to wait till those who can't wait try it, and hear the opinions later, before you make a decision.

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | Yes!

Clarisa Moraña — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 15:12:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: Clarisa Moraña
Post title: Yes!

Absolutely! In fact, I'm surprised that others don't.
And I have the updated licenses for DejaVu, SDL Trados Studio, Wordfast, memoQ, and Transit NXT (which is the only one that never requested me to pay for the updates). Some of the tools do not require an update for the upgrade, but their license expire, or an annual fee has to be paid...

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | No...

Luiz Barucke — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 14:42:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: Luiz Barucke
Post title: No...

As Mario mentioned, software updates are usually free of charge if you have a license. Only new versions have new rates applied.

However, I'm not the kind of guy who upgrades my software tools or OS each time an upgrade is released. When I find a software which fits well and helps me with my needs, I get used to it and avoid updating all the time.

For example, I use mostly Wordfast Pro 3 and I love it! Personally, I hated version 4 (it threw almost all WF3 great features away). And I luckily have an old version installation. I use version 3.4.0 (they are now offering only 3.4.8), because I noticed that all newer versions are slower when managing big term bases (and I have a huge glossary).

Not every change and not every new releases are for the better. Depending on how you see it and use it, of course.

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | Annual fee for MemoQ

John Fossey — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 13:44:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: John Fossey
Post title: Annual fee for MemoQ

I mainly use MemoQ, which offers a reasonable annual maintenance fee (about $150) which includes automatically updating and upgrading as newer versions come out. It also provides for very fast, personal tech support.

IMO, the cost of CAT tools, compared to the software used by many other professions, is a bargain. A freelance engineer using Solidworks, for example, has an initial expense of about $4000 USD plus an annual maintenance fee of about $1200.

I consider it just a business expense necessary to have a smooth running operation.

[Edited at 2016-08-03 13:47 GMT]

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | Packard Bell computers are unreliable

Mario Chavez (X) — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 13:42:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: Mario Chavez (X)
Post title: Packard Bell computers are unreliable

[quote]Yetta J Bogarde wrote:

I bought a Packard Bell desktop pc a couple of years ago, which was born with Windows 8.0, and as it turns out that is all it supports.
When I tried to update to 8.1 it broke down (twice) and I had to reset to factory settings and start all over (in Windows 8).

Since yesterday, when I tried to open the computer it did not want to accept the access code and it seems frozen.
I suspect it has to do with Windows 10. But I don't know what Windows is up to. [/quote]

May I suggest sticking with good brands, such as Dell, Toshiba, Lenovo, Asus, etc.? Packard Bells were notoriously reliable back in the mid 1990s. It pays to read reviews of PC computers before buying one. [url removed] and [url removed] are two good sites to look for reviews.

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | No need

esperantisto — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 12:17:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: esperantisto
Post title: No need

I do not need to purchase a license because my favorite OmegaT is free as in ‘freedom’ :-)

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | I doff my hat to you, sir

P.L.F. Persi (X) — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 11:20:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: P.L.F. Persi (X)
Post title: I doff my hat to you, sir

[quote]José Henrique Lamensdorf wrote:

I only see Trados having vintage years like wines, and each such vintage being incompatible with another.

It's like serving both the Château des Cochons 2012 and 2014 in the same meal being expected to cause unavoidable dyspepsia. [/quote]

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | Not applicable

Marcelina Haftka — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 11:14:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: Marcelina Haftka
Post title: Not applicable

I agree with Yetta: I pay for Wordfast Studio and I have not been forced to pay extra for any Wf Classic or Pro update.
And I also use memoQ with my clients' licences. The same goes for minor CATs I use.

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | This seems to be a Trados-only question...

José Henrique Lamensdorf — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 10:57:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: José Henrique Lamensdorf
Post title: This seems to be a Trados-only question...

... like 80% of the questions in the Proz forums as a whole.

I only see Trados having vintage years like wines, and each such vintage being incompatible with another.

It's like serving both the Château des Cochons 2012 and 2014 in the same meal being expected to cause unavoidable dyspepsia.

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | Other

neilmac — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 09:28:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: neilmac
Post title: Other

Non sequitur.

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | Talking about updates

Yetta Jensen Bogarde — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 09:25:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: Yetta Jensen Bogarde
Post title: Talking about updates

I bought a Packard Bell desktop pc a couple of years ago, which was born with Windows 8.0, and as it turns out that is all it supports.
When I tried to update to 8.1 it broke down (twice) and I had to reset to factory settings and start all over (in Windows 8).

Since yesterday, when I tried to open the computer it did not want to accept the access code and it seems frozen.
I suspect it has to do with Windows 10. But I don't know what Windows is up to.

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | No, of course not

Yetta Jensen Bogarde — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 09:05:00 +0000

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | I was (sort of) forced into it fairly recently and subsequently glad

Mike Sadler (X) — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 08:58:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: Mike Sadler (X)
Post title: I was (sort of) forced into it fairly recently and subsequently glad

I'd been using Trados Studio 2014, judging that on balance its unreliability was outweighed by its utility. I changed my computer operating system to Windows 10 and found that Studio 2014 didn't work properly any more and rapidly bought 2015 that, prior to then, I had had no intention of buying. This was a stress purchase.
I then found that Studio 2015 was a much better beast than its predecessor and have been very glad that I bought it.
It still crashed yesterday though when I tried to add a term to Multiterm.

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | Neither

Chié_JP — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 08:29:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: Chié_JP
Post title: Neither

[quote]Michael Harris wrote:

I would never be the first to purchase "new" software because you are then the guinea pig and have to suffer the expriments the software companies do at our expense - no time for that [/quote]

Same here, I read numerous issues for new versions and understood the risk of being early adopters. We should wait until our own clients or agencies are well familiar with it.

Some like Kilgray even set very complicated renewal rules and almost try to rick you into purchasing the whole software again. I can not just take it either - it is sometimes just a normal bug fix than a new feature.

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade? | No

Michael Harris — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 08:21:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: Michael Harris
Post title: No

I did actually purchase trados 2014 when it came out, but only installed it at the end of last year because I was having problems with Multiterm - which was a good choice because everything works a lot quicker since then.
Across - Okay, there was the free of charge version which I did update to the extra super version, but only because it was on offer.

I would never be the first to purchase "new" software because you are then the guinea pig and have to suffer the expriments the software companies do at our expense - no time for that

Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?

ProZ.com Staff — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 08:10:02 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you purchase the license of your CAT tool anew every time it has a major upgrade?
Poster: ProZ.com Staff

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