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Translation Alignment | Word macros for aligning

Bruce Tuggy — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 16:54:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Bruce Tuggy
Post title: Word macros for aligning

When I was looking for alignment tools a few months ago, I had whole book manuscripts that I wanted to place into TMs. Nothing that I looked at seemed to meet my needs, especially for Word files where I used a two-column table, with an original paragraph in the left column and its translated paragraph in the right column. If you have this situation, I've written a macro to break the paragraphs into segments and align them, with a few residual misalignments to be cleaned up when done.

I also wrote a version of the macro to align texts in separate files, however, it's nowhere nearly as polished as Align Factory (but it's free).

Please let me know if you think you can use one of these two macros.

Translation Alignment | Not in Germany, it seems

Ines Radionovas-Lagoutte, PhD — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 07:16:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Ines Radionovas-Lagoutte, PhD
Post title: Not in Germany, it seems

[quote]Garry Black wrote:

[quote]Stepan Konev wrote:

[quote]Ines R, PhD wrote:
it doesn't seem to be available (any more?).[/quote]Why not? Did you try it? I tried and I could successfully complete the purchase form.

* I am not sure if the screenshot may be considered as advertising, therefore, I blur the brand name. But all the buttons work fine.
Could it be the case that they only sell it in Russia?.. Probably you can try their emails: [email removed] , [email removed] , [email removed]

[Edited at 2021-08-12 20:02 GMT] [/quote]

I'm in Israel; just checked and it's available here, although the local price is ILS 526 = $163 for the Freelance Edition. It's available locally on abbyy.co.il

I see that it's also available here -
[url removed]

[Edited at 2021-08-12 20:27 GMT]

[Edited at 2021-08-12 20:30 GMT] [/quote]

Ok, so first I thought it's just my mobile, but also from the computer, neither of those links work for me, and I end up with the regular OCR software.
I will try a proxy later, because now I really want it! 🤣

Thanks for the links anyway!

Translation Alignment | Available in Israel

Garry Black — Thu, 12 Aug 2021 20:24:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Garry Black
Post title: Available in Israel

[quote]Stepan Konev wrote:

[quote]Ines R, PhD wrote:
it doesn't seem to be available (any more?).[/quote]Why not? Did you try it? I tried and I could successfully complete the purchase form.

* I am not sure if the screenshot may be considered as advertising, therefore, I blur the brand name. But all the buttons work fine.
Could it be the case that they only sell it in Russia?.. Probably you can try their emails: [email removed] , [email removed] , [email removed]

[Edited at 2021-08-12 20:02 GMT] [/quote]

I'm in Israel; just checked and it's available here, although the local price is ILS 526 = $163 for the Freelance Edition. It's available locally on abbyy.co.il

I see that it's also available here -
[url removed]

[Edited at 2021-08-12 20:27 GMT]

[Edited at 2021-08-12 20:30 GMT]

Translation Alignment | Got the trial version

Garry Black — Thu, 12 Aug 2021 20:15:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Garry Black
Post title: Got the trial version

[quote]Stepan Konev wrote:

[quote]Garry Black wrote:
They haven't replied.[/quote]That sounds odd to me. When I wrote them, they responded quickly by email as if it was a chat room. May I think this is because I'm that famous now? :D [/quote]

))
I wrote them again and they replied quickly, guess there was some unclear issue with my previous email. I'm trying it right now. The Alignment Editor is in English, as well as as everything else in the software.
The first result I got is relatively good, most of the segments are aligned correctly, a few are unrelated. I'm aligning Hebrew (source) and English (target) pairs, so maybe HE causes it some confusions here and there, but overall, I must say that I'm impressed.

Translation Alignment | Glory?

Stepan Konev — Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:55:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Stepan Konev
Post title: Glory?

[quote]Garry Black wrote:
They haven't replied.[/quote]That sounds odd to me. When I wrote them, they responded quickly by email as if it was a chat room. May I think this is because I'm that famous now? :D

Translation Alignment | Works for me

Stepan Konev — Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:43:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Stepan Konev
Post title: Works for me

[quote]Ines R, PhD wrote:
it doesn't seem to be available (any more?).[/quote]Why not? Did you try it? I tried and I could successfully complete the purchase form.

* I am not sure if the screenshot may be considered as advertising, therefore, I blur the brand name. But all the buttons work fine.
Could it be the case that they only sell it in Russia?.. Probably you can try their emails: [email removed] , [email removed] , [email removed]

[Edited at 2021-08-12 20:02 GMT]

Translation Alignment | Thanks

Ines Radionovas-Lagoutte, PhD — Thu, 12 Aug 2021 18:51:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Ines Radionovas-Lagoutte, PhD
Post title: Thanks

[quote]Stepan Konev wrote:
Link[/quote]

Thank you, but it doesn't seem to be available (any more?).

Translation Alignment | Thanks for the info

Garry Black — Thu, 12 Aug 2021 10:32:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Garry Black
Post title: Thanks for the info

[quote]Philippe Locquet wrote:

I have done lots of alignments.
Align Factory is good to help you double-check aligned text.

However, if you are looking at a vast amount of data, a big issue is misalignment due to segmentation issues. When many segments are misaligned, the time spent fixing it may outweigh the benefit of having the alignment done.

What I usually recommend is the Wordfast Aligner on wordfast.net (not DOT COM). It's actively developed and has smart features built-in to omit TUs that are potentially misaligned. I personally prefer less but more accurate TUs.
It's free, you just copy-paste the text in the boxes on the website.

Here's the link if you want to try it:
[url removed] [/quote]

Thank you for the info. However, I prefer not to do it online due to confidentiality reasons.

Translation Alignment | No reply yet

Garry Black — Thu, 12 Aug 2021 10:23:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Garry Black
Post title: No reply yet

[quote]Stepan Konev wrote:

@Garry Black
If/When you choose to start your trial period, could you please advise if you have the Alignment Editor in English or in French. Even when I select English in the Language settings, the major part of the UI is in English, but Alignment Editor still remains in French. I asked them if it was a limitation of the trial version, but they said no, it must be in English regarless of the trial version. Do you experience that either? [/quote]

They haven't replied. I'll send them another email later today and will let you know about the Alignment Editor UI language once/if I get it.

Translation Alignment | Link

Stepan Konev — Sun, 08 Aug 2021 19:01:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Stepan Konev
Post title: Link

[quote]Ines R, PhD wrote:
Can't find it[/quote] [url removed]
However it does not allow you to align multiple files simultaneously. Batch processing means that you can prepare multiple files for alignment but you still work with each pair of files individually.

[Edited at 2021-08-08 19:11 GMT]

Translation Alignment | Can't find it

Ines Radionovas-Lagoutte, PhD — Sun, 08 Aug 2021 16:34:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Ines Radionovas-Lagoutte, PhD
Post title: Can't find it

[quote]Andriy Yasharov wrote:

ABBYY Aligner may help.
It has a batch alignment feature. [/quote]

Do you happen to have a link for this? I can't find it.

Translation Alignment | French UI

Stepan Konev — Sun, 08 Aug 2021 14:42:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Stepan Konev
Post title: French UI

@Garry Black
If/When you choose to start your trial period, could you please advise if you have the Alignment Editor in English or in French. Even when I select English in the Language settings, the major part of the UI is in English, but Alignment Editor still remains in French. I asked them if it was a limitation of the trial version, but they said no, it must be in English regarless of the trial version. Do you experience that either?

Translation Alignment | Segmentation

Philippe Locquet — Sun, 08 Aug 2021 10:39:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Philippe Locquet
Post title: Segmentation

I have done lots of alignments.
Align Factory is good to help you double-check aligned text.

However, if you are looking at a vast amount of data, a big issue is misalignment due to segmentation issues. When many segments are misaligned, the time spent fixing it may outweigh the benefit of having the alignment done.

What I usually recommend is the Wordfast Aligner on wordfast.net (not DOT COM). It's actively developed and has smart features built-in to omit TUs that are potentially misaligned. I personally prefer less but more accurate TUs.
It's free, you just copy-paste the text in the boxes on the website.

Here's the link if you want to try it:
[url removed]

Translation Alignment | Noted

Garry Black — Sat, 07 Aug 2021 00:18:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Garry Black
Post title: Noted

[quote]Stepan Konev wrote:

This is just to make sure you have seen my update.
Aslo, they told me that they can somehow apply "Student" price even if you are not a student. I did not request for further details how, but you can ask them though. I plan to ask them later when my trial period is over.

[Edited at 2021-08-06 22:11 GMT] [/quote]

Thank you for the update and info in your last post!

Translation Alignment | Updated comment above.

Stepan Konev — Fri, 06 Aug 2021 21:53:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Stepan Konev
Post title: Updated comment above.

This is just to make sure you have seen my update.
Aslo, they told me that they can somehow apply "Student" price even if you are not a student. I did not request for further details how, but you can ask them though. I plan to ask them later when my trial period is over.

[Edited at 2021-08-06 22:11 GMT]

Translation Alignment | 10-day trial

Garry Black — Fri, 06 Aug 2021 20:26:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Garry Black
Post title: 10-day trial

[quote]Stepan Konev wrote:

AlignFactory can do that. But it has a stratospheric price though, at least for a freelance translator. [/quote]

I'll write them an email to request a 10-day trial.
Спасибо за идею!

Translation Alignment | AlignFactory

Stepan Konev — Fri, 06 Aug 2021 15:38:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Stepan Konev
Post title: AlignFactory

[quote]Georgi Kovachev wrote:
I know of no TM alignment tool that can process a number of source files and their corresponding target files simultaneously.[/quote]AlignFactory can do that. But it has a stratospheric price though, at least for a freelance translator.

UPD: Actually, you can open one file and insert 3999 files into it, both for source and target (when in the first Word file, press Ctrl+End, Ctrl+Enter, click 'Insert' tab, click the 'Object' dropdown arrow in 'Text' group, select 'Text from file', select all files exept the one which is already opened). And then aligh them.

[Edited at 2021-08-06 21:53 GMT]

Translation Alignment | Thank you for replying

Garry Black — Thu, 05 Aug 2021 07:14:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Garry Black
Post title: Thank you for replying

[quote]Georgi Kovachev wrote:

I am not sure if creating TMs from a multitude of Word file pairs is worth it. I know of no TM alignment tool that can process a number of source files and their corresponding target files simultaneously. You can align only one pair of files.

You may consider starting a new TM and a glossary if you have not yet used one. Modern CAT tools provide term extraction functionality whereby you can create a glossary.

[/quote]

If it'd be possible, then yes, it would definitely be worth it, particularly because I have a huge number of file pairs on a certain subject that I haven't touched for years and now have a chance to do projects in that field again. It required an extensive research back in the day and currently, I don't have the time to dive into that field again due to being overloaded with my daily tasks.

I'm aware of the option to start a new TM, but at this point, in this particular case, it's a "do it quick or don't do it at all" type of thing. If there's no easy option, I'll just have to skip that opportunity.

Translation Alignment | Is it worth it?

Georgi Kovachev — Wed, 04 Aug 2021 13:04:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Georgi Kovachev
Post title: Is it worth it?

I am not sure if creating TMs from a multitude of Word file pairs is worth it. I know of no TM alignment tool that can process a number of source files and their corresponding target files simultaneously. You can align only one pair of files.

You may consider starting a new TM and a glossary if you have not yet used one. Modern CAT tools provide term extraction functionality whereby you can create a glossary.

Translation Alignment | Thanks!

Garry Black — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 08:22:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Garry Black
Post title: Thanks!

[quote]Grigori Gazarian wrote:

I prefer using SDLX (yes, I know) for this. I recommend you give it a try if you have an old Trados license lying around. [/quote]

I do actually have an old Trados license. Thanks for the advice!

Translation Alignment | SDLX

Grigori Gazarian — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 04:33:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Grigori Gazarian
Post title: SDLX

I prefer using SDLX (yes, I know) for this. I recommend you give it a try if you have an old Trados license lying around.

Translation Alignment | Thank you! I'll check it out.

Garry Black — Mon, 02 Aug 2021 20:44:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Garry Black
Post title: Thank you! I'll check it out.

[quote]Andriy Yasharov wrote:

ABBYY Aligner may help.
It has a batch alignment feature. [/quote]

Translation Alignment | ABBYY Aligner

Andriy Yasharov — Mon, 02 Aug 2021 20:40:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Andriy Yasharov
Post title: ABBYY Aligner

ABBYY Aligner may help.
It has a batch alignment feature.

Translation Alignment

Garry Black — Mon, 02 Aug 2021 20:28:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Translation Alignment
Poster: Garry Black

Dear colleagues,
A general question: is there an efficient way to align and create TMs from a huge number of source-target Word file pairs (~4,000 files)?

Background for the above question: despite working in the field for over 20 years (in-house/private customer base), I rarely had to use CAT tools. Currently, I'm looking for a way to create TMs from thousands of projects I translated over the years.

I am not referring to a specific software, so looking for advice regarding any software and methods that would allow me to do it (if there are any). The only way I know is via Trados, which would take ages - unless there is some efficient method I'm not aware of.

[Edited at 2021-08-02 20:36 GMT]

[Edited at 2021-08-02 20:43 GMT]