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Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | .

Gerard Barry — Mon, 01 Jul 2024 13:26:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Gerard Barry
Post title: .

This is a really interesting question. To answer it properly, one would probably have to differentiate between people who are genuinely native speakers of more than one language and people who learn a second (or third or fourth etc.) language when they are a little older. I certainly feel different when I speak German (my second language, which I started learning when I was 13) and I don't think I'll ever overcome the shyness of standing out because of my Irish accent when speaking the language. But do I think differently when I speak German as opposed to when i speak English? I don't think so to be honest.

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Trivialities or not

Denis Fesik — Sun, 30 Jun 2024 10:42:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Denis Fesik
Post title: Trivialities or not

[quote]Christopher Schröder wrote:

[quote]Denis Fesik wrote a lot which was interesting, but…[/quote]
… why has this thread become/been about how languages are different when the question was about whether we think differently? Aren’t these linguistic differences trivialities of expression?[/quote]

It's just that a human thought doesn't express itself much in non-linguistic ways. There's one thing that had me shivering with awe when I read an essay on the philosophy of names: your name is the very last thing one can know about you, everything else is a noumenon which is impossible to talk about.

One fact I'm selling what I bought it for: imagine you're talking to a Chinese friend about a plan for tomorrow. He says yes, and you go to bed in peace. The plan fails, so you ask him why. He doesn't even understand what's wrong: in Chinese, there are no definitive "yes" or "no," and his "yes" only meant something like "you're right (but I still have other plans)." Plus, he might have used his mastery of the language to pull your leg way beyond its tensile strength, and there was nothing wrong with that in his system of things. You were having a nice talk, weren't you? Why would he say no? "Yea yea" and "nay nay" just don't exist there

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Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Thinking

The Shredder — Sun, 30 Jun 2024 09:07:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: The Shredder
Post title: Thinking

[quote]Denis Fesik wrote a lot which was interesting, but…[/quote]
… why has this thread become/been about how languages are different when the question was about whether we think differently? Aren’t these linguistic differences trivialities of expression?

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Simple answer

Michele Fauble — Sat, 29 Jun 2024 15:56:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Michele Fauble
Post title: Simple answer

Language influences thought, but it does not determine it.

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | This question had me thinking hard for half the night

Denis Fesik — Sat, 29 Jun 2024 10:40:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Denis Fesik
Post title: This question had me thinking hard for half the night

Friday was one helluvaday so I didn't post right away. I was surprised to see people talking about colors: you can always explain a color or specify its code range. In superficial things, you can always find a translation solution that's passable. In countries where people hear thick and thin sounds instead of low and high, you can easily teach them to perceive sounds as low and high (both are possible in Russian except that thick and thin sounds are predominantly kids' talk). But what if we make languages talk about fundamental things? My intuition is that dissimilar languages show massive differences in how they express thoughts at fundamental levels.

I'll share a couple of examples backed by zero academic research: just a short segment out of a long string of moments when I'd think, "Why, English, why?" A recurring theme in my posts is that English has gaps in what Russian presents as continuous flows of meaning that are relevant to philosophy, culture, and interpretation of history. Nonexistent or highly fragmented constellations of words, which really explain nothing, where we have something like cамостоятельный, самостоятельность, самостояние or (harder still) подвиг, подвижник, подвижничество, подвизаться—and so many others. I believe this can be explained by two main reasons: (1) English is an analytical language (one of the most powerful of them if you ask me) while Russian is a synthetic language, and (2) English is a language of having while Russian is a language of being.

Philosophically, how can you even begin to talk about being (I'm introducing the word "бытие" to make it firm and solid) if it means both the state or condition of being and something that is, like one of us. How can you base ontology on this? Why is English always flipping between being and becoming where Russian has бытие only? I can cite several examples that have puzzled me, the most ridiculous one coming from a notorious US-based religious cult that translated the name of God as "He causes to become" and converted it into Russian in the most straightforward way. Even when I was young and naive, the first thought that ocurred to me when I read it was, "So what? Why should I consider myself chosen by virtue of knowing this?"

We all know about "subjekt/objekt" (I'll keep writing them in German so things remain clear; originally, it's a talk about the onlooker and the thing being looked upon and I won't even discuss philosophic theories about what it means, my observations only concern language usage). Russian has a consistent system where the subjekt/objekt relationship can be established across the language space: whenever you have an action, you can pinpoint the subjekt and the objekt of it, which is impossible in English. An object of research (or of any other activity) is probably an objective, and a subject is what the research is about (a topic). What about we make things tougher and introduce субъектность? Entering the stage are "agency-patiency," but they offer a weak competition because they are social things: if you don't think you have agency, you must clamor for it and then someone in power will come out and say, "From now on, you have agency. Go out and confer agency unto all those lacking it." Another thing that pops up in English is "personhood" but I won't even cover it because it's a totally different thing.

My thoughts above are nothing but sporadic examples of language continuities falling apart when faced with other languages' realities. I'd have to whip out many more posts of about the same length if I fancied writing about, e. g., the different ways languages deal with religions (my claim is that English just cannot talk about religious things because it wasn't designed for them), only it's a topic that doesn't interest people anymore. So, I have to stop here. Sorry for a long post

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Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Sumimasen, Barbara-san!

P.L.F. Persi (X) — Sat, 29 Jun 2024 06:36:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: P.L.F. Persi (X)
Post title: Sumimasen, Barbara-san!

Typo fixed.

Of course I still have your link. I can't visit Japan at the moment, so reading all I can about it is the next best thing.

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Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | The Zelig effect

Barbara Carrara — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 18:54:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Barbara Carrara
Post title: The Zelig effect

Aren't the ways the mind operates just amazing?
Take that wonderful human being, Porzia.
No sooner had she mentioned Japan, than she typed my name the exact same way a Japanese native would pronounce it.

PS I was touched that you remembered that colour-purple link.

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Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Pink

Michele Fauble — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 17:58:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Michele Fauble
Post title: Pink

In Norwegian pink is lyserød (light red).

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Wait, what?

P.L.F. Persi (X) — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:56:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: P.L.F. Persi (X)
Post title: Wait, what?

[quote]Christopher Schröder wrote:

[quote]Zea_Mays wrote:
IKB [url removed] [/quote]
I saw one of these in Copenhagen a couple of years ago and it certainly is a nice colour, but I struggle to see it as art.

Colours are only labels anyway. Apparently purple is made up by the brain and doesn’t even exist…

[/quote]

Are the Japanese wrong? [url removed] (Thanks to Barbara Carrara, who sent me this wondrous link a couple of years ago.)

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Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Feeling blue

The Shredder — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:45:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: The Shredder
Post title: Feeling blue

[quote]Zea_Mays wrote:
IKB [url removed] [/quote]
I saw one of these in Copenhagen a couple of years ago and it certainly is a nice colour, but I struggle to see it as art.

Colours are only labels anyway. Apparently purple is made up by the brain and doesn’t even exist…

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | digressing... my favourite blue

Zea_Mays — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:10:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Zea_Mays
Post title: digressing... my favourite blue

IKB [url removed]

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Red and blue

P.L.F. Persi (X) — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:07:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: P.L.F. Persi (X)
Post title: Red and blue

[quote]Edith van der Have wrote:

[quote]Christopher Schröder wrote:

[quote]P.L.F. Persio wrote:
Actually, in Italian we have three different words for blue: celeste (light or pale blue), azzurro (blue), blu (dark blue). [/quote]
So do you have extra colours in the rainbow, like some languages have extra letters??? Or do all three still count as shades of blue?

I mean, even in English, where we only have one word for snow, we have sky blue, navy blue, royal blue, turquoise, teal, cyan, cobalt, aquamarine, pale blue, dark blue, deep blue, etc.

In Welsh, "glas" today means blue whereas it used to mean green. Get your heads round that then ;-)
[/quote]
That's a good one! And to make it more complicated, there are colour indications that are so old that the lack of newer colour words in the language back then is reflected in them. E.g. red wine looks purple and red hair looks orange.

[Edited at 2024-06-28 14:49 GMT] [/quote]

Fascinating, isn't it? In the Iliad and the Odissey, Homer famously defines the sea as "wine-dark."

As for the Italian terms for blue, we perceive them as different colours per se, not shades, just like siniy (dark blue) and goluboj (light blue) in Russian.

@Angie: This absolutely beautiful "blu Madonna": [url removed] (Raphael)#/media/File:Raphael_-_Madonna_in_the_Meadow_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | @Porzia

Zea_Mays — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:04:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Zea_Mays
Post title: @Porzia

Form and content are two different sleeve pairs.

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | That old chestnut – Part 2

P.L.F. Persi (X) — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 15:41:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: P.L.F. Persi (X)
Post title: That old chestnut – Part 2

No, I don’t believe we think differently in different languages.

The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is something that turns up like a bad penny, whenever people discuss languages, but it’s been a largely debunked and discredited theory for quite some time now, one of the reasons being that it could be given a racist spin.

The idea of linguistic relativity (another name for the above mentioned hypothesis) is a principle suggesting that the structure of a language influences its speakers’ worldview or cognition, and thus individuals' languages determine or influence their perceptions of the world. (Read more on this well explained article [url removed] from which come the other quotes in italics below.)
Some languages have complex grammar rules – are their speakers more logical, rational, likely to be sophisticated thinkers?
English is relatively easy for most speakers of Indo-European languages – are all Anglophones simpletons? And no, yesterday’s US presidential debate doesn’t count as evidence!

Now, I’m just a translator, not a linguist, so I’m going to speak from the admittedly extremely limited point of view of a one-person sample, myself.
For me, it’s thought that informs language, not the other way round, as per Chomsky’s Universalist theory of language, according to which linguistic structures are largely innate and (…) what are perceived as differences between specific languages are surface phenomena that do not affect the brain's universal cognitive processes, and Steven Pinker’s The Language Instinct, in which he argues that thought is independent of language, that language is itself meaningless in any fundamental way to human thought, and that human beings do not even think in "natural" language, i.e. any language that we actually communicate in; rather, we think in a meta-language, preceding any natural language, termed "mentalese."

My secondary job requires me to write in English and, before that, to do a lot of reading and thinking in English, which is not my mother tongue. Do I experience a major/minor shift in my worldview and/or personality, while doing all of that Anglo-cogitating and stuff? I most certainly do not.
I wish I could dazzle the world, albeit temporarily, with my newly acquired subtle and endearingly self-deprecating English sense of humour, but nope, I’m still the same touchy battle-axe as ever and in any language, much like Tommy DeVito/Joe Pesci in the infamous How am I funny?-scene in Goodfellas.

Whenever I write “creatively”, the act of putting ideas and concepts in writing reminds me of translation because, when I suppose I’m thinking in English (or Italian), I’m in fact thinking in “mentalese”, and so I have to transpose my thoughts from my brain to the computer screen in the clearest, closest, most faithful way possible, while hopefully infusing it with the elusive quality that makes it a riveting read, after multiple rounds of self-editing and self-doubt.

The one sure thing, though, is that how our minds and brains work is still mostly a mystery to us. A theory can be thought as plausible, then be deemed as ridiculous, and later on, not entirely preposterous again. We’re not mathematical entities, after all, we’re not quantifiable.

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Not really

Angie Garbarino — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 15:31:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Angie Garbarino
Post title: Not really

[quote]Christopher Schröder wrote:

So do you have extra colours in the rainbow, like some languages have extra letters??? Or do all three still count as shades of blue?

[/quote]

Yes we do, cobalt, navy blue and for example blu madonna are indeed shades of blue, but not the ones mentioned by Porzia, those are real colours.

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Lieven

Barbara Carrara — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 14:52:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Barbara Carrara
Post title: Lieven

[quote]Lieven Malaise wrote:

[quote]Barbara Carrara wrote:
Staff, if as you say you read the fora, how about BANNING the use of ChatGPT across the platform?[/quote]

That would be a bit radical, I believe. I would never use ChatGPT like this because it would present a false image of who I am and I don't want that. But at the same time I can't think of a good reason to forbid people to use it. It's their choice.

Apart from that it would also be difficult for Proz to draw the line where personal knowledge ends and ChatGPT begins. [/quote]

Mine was a provocation.

But it is true that some so called professionals are already using ChatGPT to answer KudoZ questions from and into any language under the sun and in any fields. We have a notorious user who's currently top of the leaderboard for their ChatGPT KudoZ participation.
Let's say ProZ were to forbid that user from using ChatGPT, at the same encouraging them to keep answering KudoZ questions as before, and then measure their performance.
Now, that would be something I'd like to see.

And what if other ChatGPT-prone ProZ users/members start imitating that kind of behaviour in the KudoZ and the Forum areas?
Imagine what this platform would turn into. Not that it isn't on that trajectory already.

Over the last few days only, an Asian member has been very active in the fora posting several contributions that had ChatGPT written all over them. Earlier today, I was notified by staff that my own posts in some of those discussions were deleted as well as the entire threads because apparently that person's profile was hijacked.
Wonder what's next.

That's why at least some form of restriction is needed. I don't use ChatGPT, so I wouldn't know how that could be set out and enforced, but surely the ProZ staff do (do they, though), especially when they keep saying that 'ProZ is on our side'. This would be another area where they can prove what they preach.

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Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Red wine and hair don't have the same colour

Edith van der Have — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 14:49:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Edith van der Have
Post title: Red wine and hair don't have the same colour

[quote]Christopher Schröder wrote:

[quote]P.L.F. Persio wrote:
Actually, in Italian we have three different words for blue: celeste (light or pale blue), azzurro (blue), blu (dark blue). [/quote]
So do you have extra colours in the rainbow, like some languages have extra letters??? Or do all three still count as shades of blue?

I mean, even in English, where we only have one word for snow, we have sky blue, navy blue, royal blue, turquoise, teal, cyan, cobalt, aquamarine, pale blue, dark blue, deep blue, etc.

In Welsh, "glas" today means blue whereas it used to mean green. Get your heads round that then ;-)
[/quote]
That's a good one! And to make it more complicated, there are colour indications that are so old that the lack of newer colour words in the language back then is reflected in them. E.g. red wine looks purple and red hair looks orange.

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Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | The Italian blues ;)

Edith van der Have — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 14:42:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Edith van der Have
Post title: The Italian blues ;)

[quote]P.L.F. Persio wrote:

[quote]Edith van der Have wrote:

In Russian, there are separate words for light blue and dark blue, and somewhere on the blue spectrum, Russian speakers perceive these as distinct colours, while we English (Dutch, German, Italian, Spanish ...) speakers see the same thing with our eyes but perceive all different hues as blue.[/quote]

Actually, in Italian we have three different words for blue: celeste (light or pale blue), azzurro (blue), blu (dark blue). [/quote]
That's interesting; I didn't know!

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | This is a bit niche...

The Shredder — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:59:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: The Shredder
Post title: This is a bit niche...

[quote]P.L.F. Persio wrote:
Actually, in Italian we have three different words for blue: celeste (light or pale blue), azzurro (blue), blu (dark blue). [/quote]
So do you have extra colours in the rainbow, like some languages have extra letters??? Or do all three still count as shades of blue?

I mean, even in English, where we only have one word for snow, we have sky blue, navy blue, royal blue, turquoise, teal, cyan, cobalt, aquamarine, pale blue, dark blue, deep blue, etc.

In Welsh, "glas" today means blue whereas it used to mean green. Get your heads round that then ;-)

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | And turchese another kind of light blue

Angie Garbarino — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 12:41:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Angie Garbarino
Post title: And turchese another kind of light blue

[quote]P.L.F. Persio wrote:

[quote]Edith van der Have wrote:

In Russian, there are separate words for light blue and dark blue, and somewhere on the blue spectrum, Russian speakers perceive these as distinct colours, while we English (Dutch, German, Italian, Spanish ...) speakers see the same thing with our eyes but perceive all different hues as blue.[/quote]

Actually, in Italian we have three different words for blue: celeste (light or pale blue), azzurro (blue), blu (dark blue). [/quote]

We, Italians have 4, French people have 2, turquoise and bleu, Spaniards have 2 azul and turquesa ;)

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Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | I wonder...

Charlie Bavington — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 12:01:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Charlie Bavington
Post title: I wonder...

... are some people here discussing how they think, or more would it be more accurate to say they are discussing how that thinking manifests itself?
How can one qualify "different" thinking?

One idea, similar but different perhaps, is: I like to think I'm reasonably bright. Not a genius, but, y'know, OK. Whereas if I did an IQ test in Hungarian, f'rinstance, it would say I'm as dumb as a rock (or as a recent former PM of the UK).
Is my thinking different, or merely how it manifests itself (or fails to) different?

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | That old chestnut – Part 1

P.L.F. Persi (X) — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 11:57:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: P.L.F. Persi (X)
Post title: That old chestnut – Part 1

[quote]Edith van der Have wrote:

In Russian, there are separate words for light blue and dark blue, and somewhere on the blue spectrum, Russian speakers perceive these as distinct colours, while we English (Dutch, German, Italian, Spanish ...) speakers see the same thing with our eyes but perceive all different hues as blue.[/quote]

Actually, in Italian we have three different words for blue: celeste (light or pale blue), azzurro (blue), blu (dark blue).

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | removed

Angie Garbarino — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 11:27:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Angie Garbarino
Post title: removed

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Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Radical

Lieven Malaise — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 11:21:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Lieven Malaise
Post title: Radical

[quote]Barbara Carrara wrote:
Staff, if as you say you read the fora, how about BANNING the use of ChatGPT across the platform?[/quote]

That would be a bit radical, I believe. I would never use ChatGPT like this because it would present a false image of who I am and I don't want that. But at the same time I can't think of a good reason to forbid people to use it. It's their choice.

Apart from that it would also be difficult for Proz to draw the line where personal knowledge ends and ChatGPT begins.

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | .

Kay Denney — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 11:05:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Kay Denney
Post title: .

My parents always thought my partner and I were arguing when we spoke in French, whereas in fact we were simply speaking in a livelier fashion. Apparently I use my hands a lot more when speaking in French.

I'm not sure that I think differently. Although there are definitely thoughts that I have in English then struggle to express in French because they are topics that the French are not (yet) concerned about.

I'm pretty sure my core beliefs are the same, they are just expressed slightly differently.

I feel that I am more pithy in English, then again, a French boss once commented that when I spoke he had to listen carefully because every word was important. Like I was a woman of few words, but important words.

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | Interesting question

Simon Turner — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:13:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Simon Turner
Post title: Interesting question

Would you ever think "Oh dear! I've got to do the washing up!" in your first or second language? I wouldn't. I don't use language to think. I don't talk to myself to tell myself that I need to do the washing up - I just think it, in pictures maybe, but not in words.

If I think of something I'm going to say, I'll think it in the language I'm going to say it in. Similarly, if I dream that I'm talking or if I'm thinking about something someone said, then it'll be either in English or in Italian, or whatever. Again, it depends who I'm talking to or who's doing the talking.

Still, I mentally count both in English and in pictures (numbers) and if I'm thinking of something I'm going to say, the message will change slightly between English and Italian.

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | In some way, yes

Lingua 5B — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 09:40:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Lingua 5B
Post title: In some way, yes

I would rather say we may *feel* different, but this comes with a different culture too, not just the language. Just like if you move to a different country, you may start feeling differently (at least in some aspects). I also noticed that when I visit friends, some of them appear like a somewhat different person at their home vs. outside world.

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | As per title of my post

Barbara Carrara — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 09:34:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Barbara Carrara
Post title: As per title of my post

[quote]Angie Garbarino wrote:

Who is this person, and where is that post?

[/quote]

CiaU, Angioletta!

Hamdi Saif, who posted 'his' contribution just before I did.

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | No

The Shredder — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 09:18:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: The Shredder
Post title: No

Not me, anyway. The limitations of my Swedish mean I express myself differently and come across as a slightly different person, with some personality traits coming to the fore and others being suppressed perhaps, but underneath I'm just me. I don't think differently.

I also make a living from using different words to express the same thoughts and ideas...

Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages? | ???

Angie Garbarino — Fri, 28 Jun 2024 09:00:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: Do you believe we think differently in different languages?
Poster: Angie Garbarino
Post title: ???

[quote]Barbara Carrara wrote:

Thank you for providing ChatGPT's view on the poll topic.

Pity that, language-wise, the English 'translations' on your profile page tell a different story. In fact, the real story.

Staff, if as you say you read the fora, how about BANNING the use of ChatGPT across the platform?

In the meantime, I am in support of reporting ChatGPT users and language abusers, and thank all the forum participants who are already doing that.

[/quote]

Who is this person, and where is that post?