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Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | All of the above equally

Sam Berner (X) — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 05:03:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Sam Berner (X)
Post title: All of the above equally

There are times and texts where dictionary are kind of outdated, and then Proz and Google swing into action. There are other times when I am doing statements written in dialect, and it is friends from those particular countries that are more helpful than Proz, Google and the dictionaries together. Often, it is something I remember reading about, or seeing somewhere.

I tend to agree with those of you who said "ME". One needs to know a lot and use all the mentioned resources as the cream on the cake, no the other way round.

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | self

Ildiko Santana — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:15:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Ildiko Santana
Post title: self

[quote]Walter Landesman wrote:

Actually, my most important resource while translating is MYSELF, my mind, my knowledge, my experience, my own skills. Dictionaries and other stuff are just help, but not the MAIN resource. That option was missing in this poll.
Best,
Walter

[Edited at 2005-10-14 16:07][/quote]

Walter,
My thoughts exactly! =)

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | Depends on the language

Parrot — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:17:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Parrot
Post title: Depends on the language

Some (like the one I'm working into now, Tagalog) will only give you word-for-word equivalences, not all of which will be exact.

In such cases, it's basically up to you to find paraphrases, synonyms and explanations. Sometimes it's more like consecutive interpreting, with a lot of leeway for approximation.

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | MS Glossaries + Search & Replace program

Riccardo Schiaffino — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:48:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Riccardo Schiaffino
Post title: MS Glossaries + Search & Replace program

The majority of the projects I work on involve translating software, documentation and web sites for PC-compatible products.

The reference material that helps me the most in these instances is a combination of my current translation memories, exported to text files, and the MS Glossaries.

I use Search and Replace to check existing MS terminology, as well as previous translations in my TMs.

When I translate in some other field, I tend to use electronic versions of bilingual dictionaries more, together with extensive use of Google and other search engines (including the KudoZ internet search).

The one paper dictionary I keep on using, even though it is now pretty old, is the large Sansoni English-Italian-English dictionary in two huge volumes: if they ever decided to convert it in full to an electronic product, I would buy it immediately.

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Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | Thank you!

Walter Landesman — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:09:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Walter Landesman
Post title: Thank you!

Thank you very much, Alison!

Walter

[Edited at 2005-10-14 16:09]

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | Exactly

Alison Schwitzgebel — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:56:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Alison Schwitzgebel
Post title: Exactly

[quote]Walter Landesman wrote:

Actually, my most important resource while translating is MYSELF, my mind, my knowledge, my experience, my own skills. Dictionaries and other stuff are just help, but not the MAIN reource. That option was missing in this poll.
Best,
Walter[/quote]

That's just what I was going to say. My knowledge of the subject matter (especially when translating financial texts) is a must-have!

Alison

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | Others ...

JackieMcC — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:31:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: JackieMcC
Post title: Others ...

Yes, I totally agree with Heidi too.
I tend to rely on my own personal glossaries / database / research notes that I have built up over the past 15 or so years. At times in the past I have been too busy rushing to meet mad deadlines that I've not added new terms to my glossary and have always really kicked myself the next time that term comes up and I have to do all the research again as I can't remember what I decided on !
Now, I make a real effort to add terms as I discover them, or when I finish a job.
Jackie

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | Agree

Walter Landesman — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:11:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Walter Landesman
Post title: Agree

[quote]Heidi:) wrote:

For language problems, I prefer traditional dictionaries (in electronic or paper form) published by reputable sources.

For terminology, I basically use searches in the internet to find electronic dictionaries or specialized sources....But my concern here is that I have noticed that a lot of translators are using ONLY search engines, guessing what the expression or term could be in the target language and checking how many hits they get...
It is really important to verify ANYTHING you find on the Internet. You have to go to the sources, check who wrote them, where they were written, read and grade the use of language in the document, and cross verify in other sources, compare with other options, preferably at professional sites or sites belonging to an organization that seems you can trust in.
...There is a lot of trash on the Internet, a lot of documents translated by translation programs, a lot of stuff written by people who are just making up the terms as they write them or who are just guessing
...Imagine all the mistakes and trash available in electronic publishing, which costs nothing (or almost nothing), which is instant and accessible to anyone (even pranksters-how do you know the "scientific" site you are quoting was not written by two teenagers having fun?)
But I am really passionate about verifying your sources and the "dangers" of just using electronic sources...
[/quote]

You are right! Fully agree with you.

Walter Landesman

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | I go perfectly with brigande additionally

Brandis (X) — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:08:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Brandis (X)
Post title: I go perfectly with brigande additionally

use all paper, electronic, kudoz or glossaries being offered by companies like SAP, Siemens etc., + my own TMs I have developed a small tool for this purpose which runs parallelly to word while translatind and is not a template like trados and lists various alternatives and their origin, which is very good for this. Normally one tends to be less critical towards a chosen word or a suggested term by the TM or other resources as they are already available and there is atleast only one in the box and less of alternatives. This gives me a leverage about building an opinion about which resouce is the best on the long run and also most reliable. But no resource is really the best, the background story and the nature of the document are still the best choices primarily to reach for an alternative in that sense. Best regards, Brandis

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | A bit of concern...

Heidi C — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:05:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Heidi C
Post title: A bit of concern...

For language problems, I prefer traditional dictionaries (in electronic or paper form) published by reputable sources.

For terminology, I basically use searches in the internet to find electronic dictionaries or specialized sources.

The Internet and search engines are a wonderful tool for translators. They allow us to save time and money by not having to go to libraries and differet places to consult (or buy) dicitionaries. They provide us with documents we would have never even considered consulting.

But my concern here is that I have noticed that a lot of translators are using ONLY search engines, guessing what the expression or term could be in the target language and checking how many hits they get...

It is really important to verify ANYTHING you find on the Internet. You have to go to the sources, check who wrote them, where they were written, read and grade the use of language in the document, and cross verify in other sources, compare with other options, preferably at professional sites or sites belonging to an organization that seems you can trust in.

It is easy to forget that not because something has been published it is correct, and not because you get a lot of hits it is correct!!! There is a lot of trash on the Internet, a lot of documents translated by translation programs, a lot of stuff written by people who are just making up the terms as they write them or who are just guessing.

Even paper dictionaries have some mistakes and sometimes their suggestion has to be verified elsewhere (my dictionaries, starting with Simon & Shuster, are full of penciled in corrections, additions, clarifications and suggestions). And one supposes that the cost alone will make any publishing house make sure that they are selling the best product possible. Imagine all the mistakes and trash available in electronic publishing, which costs nothing (or almost nothing), which is instant and accessible to anyone (even pranksters-how do you know the "scientific" site you are quoting was not written by two teenagers having fun?)

Sorry this ended up so long... But I am really passionate about verifying your sources and the "dangers" of just using electronic sources...

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | Misunderstanding

Walter Landesman — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:13:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Walter Landesman
Post title: Misunderstanding

[quote]Marianela Melleda wrote:

This is my main resource and it was not mentioned in the options, since "Kudoz" means that you post questions (and I seldom do it). If in doubt, I usually find the best answer within [url removed] , which is of utmost value to me.

Marianela Melleda[/quote]

Hi, MM,

KUDOZ refers to Kudoz Glossaries, which is what you use, it seems.

[quote]Marianela Melleda wrote:
On the other hand, even though I agree with Walter that our main resource is our experience, knowledge, etc., I assume it is so too obvious to mention it, since the question is directed to professional translators.

Marianela Melleda[/quote]

Then, it should have been posted as "main help", not "main resource", I think.

Best,
Walter Landesman

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | It depends on the kind of text

Karolina Katsika — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:50:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Karolina Katsika
Post title: It depends on the kind of text

For ex., I find Eurodicautom very useful for EU terminology, but not useful at all for psychoanalyses terminology.

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating? | Missing option.

Walter Landesman — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:31:00 +0000

Forum: Poll Discussion
Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: Walter Landesman
Post title: Missing option.

Actually, my most important resource while translating is MYSELF, my mind, my knowledge, my experience, my own skills. Dictionaries and other stuff are just help, but not the MAIN resource. That option was missing in this poll.
Best,
Walter

[Edited at 2005-10-14 16:07]

Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?

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Topic: Poll: What is your most important resource while translating?
Poster: ProZ.com Staff

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