| Pages in topic: [1 2] > | Poll: Moneybookers or PayPal? Thread poster: ProZ.com Staff
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| | Simon Bruni 
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:26
Member (2009)
Spanish to English
| PayPal but not often | Sep 25, 2010 |
I've only done one or two jobs paid via PayPal; it doesn't seem to be very popular in Spain.
| | | | Mary Worby
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:26
German to English
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I find the fees pretty extortionate when payment by bank transfer throughout Europe doesn't cost a penny.
| | | | vixen
Greece
Local time: 02:26
English to Dutch
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I have no experience with Moneybookers and I only accept payments through PayPal on rare occasions and only for smaller amounts up to about EUR 300, because the costs for receiving larger funds are way too high.
Since I am working mainly for European clients, bank transfers are virtually free. Off-hand, I think I pay EUR 0.07 per outgoing payment and EUR 0.14 per incoming payment throughout Europe.
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Owen Munday
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:26
Spanish to English
| Free bank transfers in Europe?? | Sep 25, 2010 |
Mary Worby wrote:
I find the fees pretty extortionate when payment by bank transfer throughout Europe doesn't cost a penny.
It sounds like I'm with the wrong bank! Am I missing something? Free bank transfers throughout Europe? My bank (Barclays) charges around 25 euros each time (UK to Spain). Does anyone have any more info about this? Is it a per bank thing?
| | | | MikeTrans
Germany
Local time: 01:26
Italian to German
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| Paypal worth when buying, not when selling services | Sep 25, 2010 |
yes, the use of Paypal within Europe in out of question: just make or receive payments via IBAN/IBAC money transfers and look at the fees. Do the same with Paypal and post your 2 results.
Paypal is very useful if you BUY a lot in the USA or other continents via eBay, Amazon etc. If you sell something (translation services) you will have to agree with your client to take 50% of the fees which is rather delicate.
Mike
| | | | Samir Sami
Qatar
Local time: 02:26
Arabic to English
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Paypal is not supported here in my country, for surreptitious reasons. Many Arab translators consider Moneybookers as an (obligatory) alternative, though this situation might change over the next few months.
The abominable verification set by moneybookers will, sooner or later, turn many customers from using such indescribable service. Personally, nothing worked for verifying my account at all as holder of a single bank account (personal address + three bank accounts, including two... See more Paypal is not supported here in my country, for surreptitious reasons. Many Arab translators consider Moneybookers as an (obligatory) alternative, though this situation might change over the next few months.
The abominable verification set by moneybookers will, sooner or later, turn many customers from using such indescribable service. Personally, nothing worked for verifying my account at all as holder of a single bank account (personal address + three bank accounts, including two top international banks, + sending the money to my MB account only to be refunded afterwards).
I hope that one day a service like iKobo would gain some popularity as either, at which point, I believe, it would permanently surpass them -- both. At least, it 'd be a bit better than the zero-level. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Mary Worby
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:26
German to English
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| Within the euro zone | Sep 25, 2010 |
Owen Munday wrote: Mary Worby wrote:
I find the fees pretty extortionate when payment by bank transfer throughout Europe doesn't cost a penny. It sounds like I'm with the wrong bank! Am I missing something? Free bank transfers throughout Europe? My bank (Barclays) charges around 25 euros each time (UK to Spain). Does anyone have any more info about this? Is it a per bank thing?
Sorry, once again the UK is out on a limb here. The free bank transfers are within the euro zone (and I've received bank transfers without incurring charges from other non-euro countries too), so although I live in the UK, I have a German bank account into which all my euro payments are made.
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Angola
Local time: 01:26
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Mary Worby wrote:
I find the fees pretty extortionate when payment by bank transfer throughout Europe doesn't cost a penny.
Even for transcontinental payments, my expensive (special) bank account and the payment of the client's bank fees seem to be cheaper than moneybrokers or Paypal
| | | | vixen
Greece
Local time: 02:26
English to Dutch
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| Fees for bank transfers within the EU | Sep 25, 2010 |
Owen Munday wrote: Mary Worby wrote:
I find the fees pretty extortionate when payment by bank transfer throughout Europe doesn't cost a penny. It sounds like I'm with the wrong bank! Am I missing something? Free bank transfers throughout Europe? My bank (Barclays) charges around 25 euros each time (UK to Spain). Does anyone have any more info about this? Is it a per bank thing?
If the funds are transferred in euros using the IBAN and BIC codes and using the Shared Cost method, your bank should charge you the same fee they would charge you for domestic bank transfers.
Please see the reference below from http://ec.europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/shopping/banking/day-to-day-banking/index_en.htm
For international payments in euros within the EU, banks should charge you no more than they would for a national transaction of the same value in euros.
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International payments in currencies other than the euro are not subject to these provisions.
Banks in EU countries which do not use the euro must also charge the same fees for transactions in the EU as they would for a domestic transfer, if the payment or transfer is made in euros.
[Edited at 2010-09-25 12:17 GMT]
| | | | R. Alex Jenkins
Brazil
Local time: 20:26
Member (2006)
Portuguese to English
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| I use both Paypal and Moneybookers | Sep 25, 2010 |
Without going into broad detail, I personally find Paypal to be VERY expensive, especially if you get paid, let's say, in Euros and convert the money into Dollars, converting the money once again into your local currency.
Moneybookers, on the other hand, I find to be somewhat cheaper.
But the key is as follows:
Make sure you get paid in the base currency of the Paypal/Moneybookers account, i.e. if you have a US-based Paypal account, make sure that only US dollars ... See more Without going into broad detail, I personally find Paypal to be VERY expensive, especially if you get paid, let's say, in Euros and convert the money into Dollars, converting the money once again into your local currency.
Moneybookers, on the other hand, I find to be somewhat cheaper.
But the key is as follows:
Make sure you get paid in the base currency of the Paypal/Moneybookers account, i.e. if you have a US-based Paypal account, make sure that only US dollars gets paid into that account, making sure that you only get paid in Euros if it's held in Euros, etc...
Bank charges and withdrawal percentages are another heavy factor, but aren't so bad if you manage to strip out the aforementioned (and rather obscene) currency conversion charges.
Best Wishes,
Richard. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Yossi Rozenman
Germany
Local time: 01:26
Member (2006)
English to Hebrew
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| I use PayPal only for small amounts | Sep 25, 2010 |
And then I use it to pay for online services, like PROZ subscription, Web hosting, Amazon etc.
I never convert between currecies or withdraw the money to my bank account. It is too expensive and does not worth the while.
[Edited at 2010-09-25 13:00 GMT]
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or bank transfer for overseas/foreign clients...
Moneybookers not available here. I don't like the fees hoovered up by paypal...if i can I use bank transfer.
| | | | | Moneybookers | Sep 25, 2010 |
My experience has been that bank fees for transfer into the UK are higher than Moneybookers and PayPal. With bank transfers you also have to persuade the agency to pay their own bank charges.
With Moneybookers I've only had a small flat fee. I opened an account at the request of a client, but it is now my preferred method.
PayPal charges a percentage, but I've found this so much better than a bank SWIFT transfer, I use PayPal accounts to transfer between my Brazilian an... See more My experience has been that bank fees for transfer into the UK are higher than Moneybookers and PayPal. With bank transfers you also have to persuade the agency to pay their own bank charges.
With Moneybookers I've only had a small flat fee. I opened an account at the request of a client, but it is now my preferred method.
PayPal charges a percentage, but I've found this so much better than a bank SWIFT transfer, I use PayPal accounts to transfer between my Brazilian and UK account (last time I checked, I couldn't link a Brazilian bank account to Moneybookers). PayPal to PayPal is immediate, there is just the usual period of a few days of waiting for the money to download to the bank account.
So my priorities for non-UK clients are: Moneybookers -> PayPal -> Bank Transfer.
For clients within country, bank deposit is obviously best. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Interlangue (X)
Angola
Local time: 01:26
English to French
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| Bank charges | Sep 25, 2010 |
Mike (de Oliveira) Brady wrote:
With bank transfers you also have to persuade the agency to pay their own bank charges.
For clients within country, bank deposit is obviously best.
Or you include them in your price from the very start!
[Modifié le 2010-09-26 05:49 GMT]
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