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soweit dies nicht ohnedies

English translation: "provided cancellation has not in any case become irrelevant"

09:25 Dec 6, 2004
German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s) / Terms and Conditions
German term or phrase: soweit dies nicht ohnedies
Hello all! More from the Terms and Conditions. Can anyone help me with the part between the asterisks? I think it means that you can cancel the agreement in writing, or you can just stop using the service any more (since it's a "pay per use" arrangement, this would make sense). But I'm having trouble untangling all the negatives, and what's with the "soweit dies nicht ohnedies"??

"Eine Kündigung hat schriftlich oder per E-Mail an die angegebene Adresse zu erfolgen, ***soweit dies nicht ohnedies beim jeweiligen Leistungsangebot durch nicht weitere In-Anspruchnahme gegenstandslos ist***."

Thanks very much in advance!
Hilary Davies Shelby
United States
Local time: 17:03
English translation:"provided cancellation has not in any case become irrelevant"
Explanation:
Hi Hilary,

even a native speaker of the German language who deals with legal texts on a day-to-day basis has to think some time about this one to untangle this terrible German sentence!

Here's what I've come up with:

Cancellation of this agreement shall be in writing or by e-mail to the address referred to above/below (according to your context), *provided cancellation has not in any case become irrelevant because the client has stopped using the particular service*.

That's what it means. In fact, the English version is a lot more understandable than the German legalese.
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innsbruck
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Wonderful, thank you both very much!
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4"provided cancellation has not in any case become irrelevant"
innsbruck
3unless this is in any case ...
Francis Lee (X)


  

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unless this is in any case ...


Explanation:
... redundant (perhaps)

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Note added at 27 mins (2004-12-06 09:52:47 GMT)
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unless this has in any case been rendered redundant ...

Francis Lee (X)
Local time: 00:03
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
"soweit dies nicht ohnedies"
"provided cancellation has not in any case become irrelevant"


Explanation:
Hi Hilary,

even a native speaker of the German language who deals with legal texts on a day-to-day basis has to think some time about this one to untangle this terrible German sentence!

Here's what I've come up with:

Cancellation of this agreement shall be in writing or by e-mail to the address referred to above/below (according to your context), *provided cancellation has not in any case become irrelevant because the client has stopped using the particular service*.

That's what it means. In fact, the English version is a lot more understandable than the German legalese.


innsbruck
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PRO pts in category: 8
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Wonderful, thank you both very much!
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