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la phrase ci-dessous :

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13:02 Nov 17, 2001
French to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Psychology / Psychology
French term or phrase: la phrase ci-dessous :
La souffrance d'origine sociale est le signe d'un retour sur l'individu qui interroge la clinique et les cliniciens d'une part, et le rapport des politiques et du politique à l'individu d'autre part.

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Amanda Grey
France
Local time: 13:53
English translation:one more time
Explanation:
Suffering which has its origins in social relations is the sign of a retreat to individualism which poses questions for clinics and clinicians in general, as well as calling into question the relationship of policies and politics to the individual, on the other hand.

"which" refers to "retreat"
"retour sur l'individu" is slippery, but however you take it, it will fit syntactically as shown.

Not that the writer shows any particular signs of desiring to be understood.
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Abu Amaal (X)
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Many thanks to all - this was really tricky!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2please read the answer below
Marcos Serrano (X)
4Amanda, please read below:
Marcos Serrano (X)
4one more time
Abu Amaal (X)


  

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
please read the answer below


Explanation:
Suffering which has social causes signals an examination firstly of the individual who seeks answers from clinical practice and practitioners; and secondly, an examination of the relationship between the individual and politics and policies.

Marcos Serrano (X)
Australia
Local time: 21:53

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Suzanne Bernard
1 hr
  -> Thank you Suzanne, please read my answer to Ian Ward's observation below
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Nikki for your response, please read below
neutral  ian ward: is it the individual who is doing the asking, or is it the 'retour sur l'individu' which requires answers from clinical practice on the one hand
4 hrs
  -> Ian, I think your second alternative is the right one, and should rephrase accordingly: Suffering that has social causes demands a renewed look at the individual by investigating firstly clinical practice and practitioners and secondly the relationship...
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Amanda, please read below:


Explanation:
I am rephrasing my previous answer following Ian Ward's observation:

Suffering that has social causes demands a renewed look at the individual by investigating firstly clinical practice and practitioners and secondly the relationship between the individual and politics and policies.

Marcos Serrano (X)
Australia
Local time: 21:53
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1 day 7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
one more time


Explanation:
Suffering which has its origins in social relations is the sign of a retreat to individualism which poses questions for clinics and clinicians in general, as well as calling into question the relationship of policies and politics to the individual, on the other hand.

"which" refers to "retreat"
"retour sur l'individu" is slippery, but however you take it, it will fit syntactically as shown.

Not that the writer shows any particular signs of desiring to be understood.

Abu Amaal (X)
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PRO pts in category: 3
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Many thanks to all - this was really tricky!
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