Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
maison civile
English translation:
residential building
Added to glossary by
Adalbert Kowal
Jan 10, 2002 15:36
22 yrs ago
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maison civile
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Civil or civilian house sounds strange to me, but I can't think of what else it could be.
Dans la ville haute, se trouve la maison païenne, du XIIe siècle, la plus ancienne maison civile d’Alsace.L’église Saint-Etienne - construite par l’architecte du château de Saverne - date du XVIIe siècle tout en ayant conservé un clocher du XIIIe siècle.
Dans la ville haute, se trouve la maison païenne, du XIIe siècle, la plus ancienne maison civile d’Alsace.L’église Saint-Etienne - construite par l’architecte du château de Saverne - date du XVIIe siècle tout en ayant conservé un clocher du XIIIe siècle.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 | residential building |
Adalbert Kowal
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| 5 +1 | house/abode |
mckinnc
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| 4 +1 | lay / non-religious |
DPolice
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| 4 | Personal house/Privately-owned house |
& Associates (X)
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| 4 | common house |
Joeri Van Liefferinge
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| 4 | The secretariat of the head of state |
Linda Young (X)
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| 4 -1 | Town Hall |
Pierre POUSSIN
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| 3 -1 | "civilian house" seems fine to me |
Christopher Petch
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Proposed translations
12 mins
Adalbert Kowal
17 years in professional translation
Native in: German 
Works in: German to English, English to German, Spanish to German, and 4 more.
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residential building
That house "maison paienne" (German: Heidenhaus) = pagan house, indeed is one of the oldest residential buildings, I had to translate a report about the Alsace (Elsass) from Italian into German last year and I can recall that it had been mentioned also there. Particularly had been mentioned there the thick walls and there had been a short description of the history of the building.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to everyone. I'm awarding points to Adalbert as he knows the exact context."
9 mins
Personal house/Privately-owned house
'civile' in this case appears as the antonym of 'Etat' which in those days was synonymous with the church or the clergy, given that the church had not been separated from the state.
9 mins
Joeri Van Liefferinge
Belgium
Belgium
Belgium
Lecturer in financial translation
Native in: Flemish , Dutch
Works in: English to Dutch, French to Dutch, English to Flemish, and 5 more.
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8
+1
10 mins
house/abode
Is all you need because in English their is no common use of the word house beyond the meaning of home. For example, maison de retraite = retirement/old folks home; maison d'arret is some sort of prison etc
Peer comment(s):
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Anna Beria
: or even "dwelling". It is not true, however, that there is no common use of "house" in English other than with the meaning of "home"...
1 hr
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I couldn't think of any - what are they?
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+1
12 mins
lay / non-religious
as opposed to churches which are usually the oldest buidings in a town
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Yolanda Broad
: or secular... (The Oxford 3-in-1 confirms your interp.)
9 mins
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20 mins
Pierre POUSSIN
France
France
Native in French
France
Fast and accurate.
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: English to French, French to English, Latin to French, and 2 more.
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400
Town Hall
It could be the palce where former aldermen used to meet.
Peer comment(s):
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Linda Young (X)
: Mairie is a town hall
53 mins
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I should have said "Former Town Hall", since I do know what a town-hall is nowadays!
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59 mins
The secretariat of the head of state
References: GDT
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Note added at 2002-01-10 16:49:49 (GMT)
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The translation of Secretariat is \'building occupied by secretarial staff\' I think it could go in the context used
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Note added at 2002-01-10 16:49:49 (GMT)
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The translation of Secretariat is \'building occupied by secretarial staff\' I think it could go in the context used
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1 hr
Christopher Petch
Native in English
15 years in agri-food translation
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English
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4
"civilian house" seems fine to me
"Civilian house" is nearly always found in a military context... (... By July Junior had rented a civilian house on Guam for the family to live in until
the Coast Guard could find an apartment for them on the Naval base. )
I feel it would be OK here because the house is located in the "ville haute" where people perhaps took refuge.
Is there any mention of military buildings? If so I'd definitely put "civilian house".
the Coast Guard could find an apartment for them on the Naval base. )
I feel it would be OK here because the house is located in the "ville haute" where people perhaps took refuge.
Is there any mention of military buildings? If so I'd definitely put "civilian house".
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